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Giving the Smallest GI Transplant Patients a New Lease On Life
The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.
Everyday life for them is a challenge.
Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.
Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.
In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.
She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI?
I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.
And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills.
Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation?
I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.
Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work?
Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.
Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014.
Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?
Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant.
Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share?
One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming.
He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal.
He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him.
Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research?
I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.
I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Huge texter
Favorite junk food?
French fries
Cat or dog person?
Dog
Favorite ice cream?
Strawberry
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Thailand
Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?
Too many
Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?
New York City
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.
Everyday life for them is a challenge.
Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.
Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.
In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.
She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI?
I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.
And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills.
Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation?
I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.
Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work?
Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.
Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014.
Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?
Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant.
Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share?
One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming.
He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal.
He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him.
Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research?
I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.
I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Huge texter
Favorite junk food?
French fries
Cat or dog person?
Dog
Favorite ice cream?
Strawberry
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Thailand
Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?
Too many
Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?
New York City
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.
Everyday life for them is a challenge.
Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.
Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.
In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.
She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI?
I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.
And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills.
Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation?
I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.
Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work?
Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.
Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014.
Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?
Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant.
Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share?
One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming.
He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal.
He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him.
Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research?
I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.
I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Huge texter
Favorite junk food?
French fries
Cat or dog person?
Dog
Favorite ice cream?
Strawberry
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Thailand
Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?
Too many
Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?
New York City
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
In a Parallel Universe, “I’d Be a Concert Pianist” Says Tennessee GI
She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.
One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.
Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”
In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.
During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures.
Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?
There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.
But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty.
Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?
I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.
That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly.
Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?
Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.
The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.
It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite junk food?
Chocolate chip cookies
Cat or dog person?
Cat
Favorite vacation?
Hawaii
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
I don’t drink coffee
Favorite ice cream?
Butter pecan
Favorite sport?
I don’t watch sports
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.
One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.
Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”
In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.
During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures.
Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?
There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.
But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty.
Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?
I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.
That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly.
Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?
Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.
The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.
It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite junk food?
Chocolate chip cookies
Cat or dog person?
Cat
Favorite vacation?
Hawaii
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
I don’t drink coffee
Favorite ice cream?
Butter pecan
Favorite sport?
I don’t watch sports
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.
One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.
Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”
In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.
During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures.
Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?
There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.
But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty.
Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?
I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.
That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly.
Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?
Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.
The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.
It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite junk food?
Chocolate chip cookies
Cat or dog person?
Cat
Favorite vacation?
Hawaii
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
I don’t drink coffee
Favorite ice cream?
Butter pecan
Favorite sport?
I don’t watch sports
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
Obesity Is Not a Moral Failing, GI Physician Says
It takes a long time for some patients with obesity to acknowledge that they need help, said Dr. Laster, a bariatric endoscopist who specializes in gastroenterology, nutrition, and obesity medicine at Gut Theory Total Digestive Care, and Georgetown University Hospital in Washington. “If somebody has high blood pressure or has a cut or has chest pain, you don’t wait for things. You would go seek help immediately. I wish more patients reached out sooner and didn’t struggle.”
Another big challenge is making sure patients have insurance coverage for things like medications, surgery, and bariatric endoscopy, she added.
Her response: education and advocacy. “I’m giving as many talks as I can to fellows, creating courses for residents and fellows and medical students” to change the way physicians talk about obesity and excess weight, she said. Patients need to understand that physicians care about them, that “we’re not judging and we’re changing that perspective.”
Dr. Laster is also working with members of Congress to get bills passed for coverage of obesity medication and procedures. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke more about the intersection between nutrition, medicine and bariatric procedures and the importance of offering patients multiple solutions.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
It allowed me a little bit of everything. You have clinic, where you can really interact with patients and get to the root of their problem. You have preventative care with routine colonoscopies and upper endoscopies to prevent for cancer. But then you also have fun stuff — which my mom told me to stop saying out loud — ‘bleeders’ and acute things that you get to fix immediately. So, you get the adrenaline rush too. I like it because you get the best of all worlds and it’s really hard to get bored.
Q: How did you become interested in nutrition and bariatric endoscopy?
My parents had a garden and never let us eat processed foods. In residency, I kept seeing the same medical problems over and over again. Everybody had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. Then in GI clinic, everybody had abdominal pain, bloating, constipation, heartburn, and a million GI appointments for these same things. Everyone’s upper endoscopy or colonoscopy was negative. Something else had to be going on.
And that’s sort of where it came from; figuring out the common denominator. It had to be what people were eating. There’s also the prevalence of patients with obesity going up every single year. Correlating all these other medical problems with people’s diets led me down the rabbit hole of: What else can we be doing?
Most people don’t want to undergo surgery. Only 2% of people eligible for surgery actually do it, even though it works. The reasons are because it’s invasive or there’s shame behind it. Bariatric endoscopy is another option that’s out here, that’s less invasive. I’m an endoscopist and gastroenterologist. I should be able to offer all those things and I should know more about nutrition. We don’t talk about it enough.
Q: Do you think more GI doctors should become better educated about nutrition?
100%. Every patient I see has seen a GI doctor before and says, ‘No one has ever told me that if I have carbonated beverages and cheese every day, I’m going to be bloated and constipated.’ And that shouldn’t be the case.
Q: Why do you think that more GI doctors don’t get the education on nutrition during their medical training?
I think it’s our healthcare system. It’s very much focused on secondary treatment rather than preventative care. There’s no emphasis on preventing things from happening.
We’re really good at reactionary medicine. People who have an ulcer, big polyps and colon cancer, esophageal cancer — we do those things really well. But I think because there’s no ICD-10 codes for preventive care via nutrition education, and no good reimbursement, then there’s no incentive for hospital systems to pay for these things. It’s a system based on RVUs (relative value units) and numbers. That’s been our trajectory. We’ve been so focused on reactionary medicine rather than saying, ‘Okay, let’s stop this from happening.’
We just didn’t talk about nutrition in medical school, in residency, or in fellowship. It was looked at as a soft science. When I was in school, people would also say, ‘No one’s going to change. So it’s a waste of your time essentially to talk to people about making dietary changes.’ I feel like if you give people the opportunity, you have to give them the chance. You can’t just write everybody off. Some people won’t change, but that’s okay. They should at least have the opportunity to do so.
Q: How do you determine whether a patient is a good candidate for bariatric surgery?
It’s based on the guidelines: If they meet the BMI requirements, if they have obesity-associated comorbidities, their risk for surgery is low. But it’s also whether they want to do it or not. A patient has to be in the mindset and be ready for it. They need to want to have surgery or bariatric endoscopy, or to use medications, or start to make a change. Some people aren’t there yet — that preemptive stage of making a change. They want the solution, but they’re not ready to do that legwork yet.
And all of it is work. I tell patients, ‘Whether it’s medication or bariatric endoscopy or bariatric surgery, you still have work to do. None of it is going to just magically happen where you could just continue to do the same thing you’re doing now and you’re going to lose weight and keep it off.’
Q: What advances in obesity prevention are you excited about?
I’m excited that bariatric endoscopy came about in the first place, because in every other field there are less invasive approaches that have become available. I’m also excited about the emergence of weight loss medication, like GLP-1s. I think they are a tool that we need.
Q: Do you think the weight loss medications may negate the need for surgery?
I don’t think they necessarily reduce the need for surgery. There’s still a lot we don’t know about why they work in some patients and why they don’t work in others.
Some of our colleagues have come up with phenotypes and blood tests so we can better understand which things will work in different patients. Surgery doesn’t work for some patients. People may need a combination of both after they reach a plateau. I’m excited that people see this as something that we should be researching and putting more effort into — that obesity isn’t a disease of moral failure, that people with excess weight just need to ‘move more’ or ‘eat less’ and it’s their fault. I’m glad people are starting to understand that.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Probably two. One of them is Andrea E Reid, MD, MPH, a dean of medicine at Harvard. She gives you such motivation to achieve things, no matter how big your idea is or how crazy it may seem. If you have something that you think is important, you go after it. Another person is Christopher C. Thompson, MD, at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, the father of bariatric endoscopy in a sense. He embodies what Dr. Reid talks about: crazy big ideas. And he goes after them and he succeeds. Having him push me and giving me that type of encouragement was invaluable.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Every Saturday is yoga or some type of movement. Spending some time outside doing something, whether it’s messing around with plants that I’m not very good at, or going for a walk.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
New York
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
Istanbul
Favorite season?
Fall
Favorite ice cream flavor?
Raspberry sorbet
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
One
Best place you ever went on vacation?
Greece
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Own a clothing store
Favorite type of music?
Old school R&B
Favorite movie genre?
Romantic comedy or drama
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football
Favorite holiday?
Christmas
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
It takes a long time for some patients with obesity to acknowledge that they need help, said Dr. Laster, a bariatric endoscopist who specializes in gastroenterology, nutrition, and obesity medicine at Gut Theory Total Digestive Care, and Georgetown University Hospital in Washington. “If somebody has high blood pressure or has a cut or has chest pain, you don’t wait for things. You would go seek help immediately. I wish more patients reached out sooner and didn’t struggle.”
Another big challenge is making sure patients have insurance coverage for things like medications, surgery, and bariatric endoscopy, she added.
Her response: education and advocacy. “I’m giving as many talks as I can to fellows, creating courses for residents and fellows and medical students” to change the way physicians talk about obesity and excess weight, she said. Patients need to understand that physicians care about them, that “we’re not judging and we’re changing that perspective.”
Dr. Laster is also working with members of Congress to get bills passed for coverage of obesity medication and procedures. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke more about the intersection between nutrition, medicine and bariatric procedures and the importance of offering patients multiple solutions.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
It allowed me a little bit of everything. You have clinic, where you can really interact with patients and get to the root of their problem. You have preventative care with routine colonoscopies and upper endoscopies to prevent for cancer. But then you also have fun stuff — which my mom told me to stop saying out loud — ‘bleeders’ and acute things that you get to fix immediately. So, you get the adrenaline rush too. I like it because you get the best of all worlds and it’s really hard to get bored.
Q: How did you become interested in nutrition and bariatric endoscopy?
My parents had a garden and never let us eat processed foods. In residency, I kept seeing the same medical problems over and over again. Everybody had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. Then in GI clinic, everybody had abdominal pain, bloating, constipation, heartburn, and a million GI appointments for these same things. Everyone’s upper endoscopy or colonoscopy was negative. Something else had to be going on.
And that’s sort of where it came from; figuring out the common denominator. It had to be what people were eating. There’s also the prevalence of patients with obesity going up every single year. Correlating all these other medical problems with people’s diets led me down the rabbit hole of: What else can we be doing?
Most people don’t want to undergo surgery. Only 2% of people eligible for surgery actually do it, even though it works. The reasons are because it’s invasive or there’s shame behind it. Bariatric endoscopy is another option that’s out here, that’s less invasive. I’m an endoscopist and gastroenterologist. I should be able to offer all those things and I should know more about nutrition. We don’t talk about it enough.
Q: Do you think more GI doctors should become better educated about nutrition?
100%. Every patient I see has seen a GI doctor before and says, ‘No one has ever told me that if I have carbonated beverages and cheese every day, I’m going to be bloated and constipated.’ And that shouldn’t be the case.
Q: Why do you think that more GI doctors don’t get the education on nutrition during their medical training?
I think it’s our healthcare system. It’s very much focused on secondary treatment rather than preventative care. There’s no emphasis on preventing things from happening.
We’re really good at reactionary medicine. People who have an ulcer, big polyps and colon cancer, esophageal cancer — we do those things really well. But I think because there’s no ICD-10 codes for preventive care via nutrition education, and no good reimbursement, then there’s no incentive for hospital systems to pay for these things. It’s a system based on RVUs (relative value units) and numbers. That’s been our trajectory. We’ve been so focused on reactionary medicine rather than saying, ‘Okay, let’s stop this from happening.’
We just didn’t talk about nutrition in medical school, in residency, or in fellowship. It was looked at as a soft science. When I was in school, people would also say, ‘No one’s going to change. So it’s a waste of your time essentially to talk to people about making dietary changes.’ I feel like if you give people the opportunity, you have to give them the chance. You can’t just write everybody off. Some people won’t change, but that’s okay. They should at least have the opportunity to do so.
Q: How do you determine whether a patient is a good candidate for bariatric surgery?
It’s based on the guidelines: If they meet the BMI requirements, if they have obesity-associated comorbidities, their risk for surgery is low. But it’s also whether they want to do it or not. A patient has to be in the mindset and be ready for it. They need to want to have surgery or bariatric endoscopy, or to use medications, or start to make a change. Some people aren’t there yet — that preemptive stage of making a change. They want the solution, but they’re not ready to do that legwork yet.
And all of it is work. I tell patients, ‘Whether it’s medication or bariatric endoscopy or bariatric surgery, you still have work to do. None of it is going to just magically happen where you could just continue to do the same thing you’re doing now and you’re going to lose weight and keep it off.’
Q: What advances in obesity prevention are you excited about?
I’m excited that bariatric endoscopy came about in the first place, because in every other field there are less invasive approaches that have become available. I’m also excited about the emergence of weight loss medication, like GLP-1s. I think they are a tool that we need.
Q: Do you think the weight loss medications may negate the need for surgery?
I don’t think they necessarily reduce the need for surgery. There’s still a lot we don’t know about why they work in some patients and why they don’t work in others.
Some of our colleagues have come up with phenotypes and blood tests so we can better understand which things will work in different patients. Surgery doesn’t work for some patients. People may need a combination of both after they reach a plateau. I’m excited that people see this as something that we should be researching and putting more effort into — that obesity isn’t a disease of moral failure, that people with excess weight just need to ‘move more’ or ‘eat less’ and it’s their fault. I’m glad people are starting to understand that.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Probably two. One of them is Andrea E Reid, MD, MPH, a dean of medicine at Harvard. She gives you such motivation to achieve things, no matter how big your idea is or how crazy it may seem. If you have something that you think is important, you go after it. Another person is Christopher C. Thompson, MD, at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, the father of bariatric endoscopy in a sense. He embodies what Dr. Reid talks about: crazy big ideas. And he goes after them and he succeeds. Having him push me and giving me that type of encouragement was invaluable.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Every Saturday is yoga or some type of movement. Spending some time outside doing something, whether it’s messing around with plants that I’m not very good at, or going for a walk.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
New York
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
Istanbul
Favorite season?
Fall
Favorite ice cream flavor?
Raspberry sorbet
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
One
Best place you ever went on vacation?
Greece
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Own a clothing store
Favorite type of music?
Old school R&B
Favorite movie genre?
Romantic comedy or drama
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football
Favorite holiday?
Christmas
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
It takes a long time for some patients with obesity to acknowledge that they need help, said Dr. Laster, a bariatric endoscopist who specializes in gastroenterology, nutrition, and obesity medicine at Gut Theory Total Digestive Care, and Georgetown University Hospital in Washington. “If somebody has high blood pressure or has a cut or has chest pain, you don’t wait for things. You would go seek help immediately. I wish more patients reached out sooner and didn’t struggle.”
Another big challenge is making sure patients have insurance coverage for things like medications, surgery, and bariatric endoscopy, she added.
Her response: education and advocacy. “I’m giving as many talks as I can to fellows, creating courses for residents and fellows and medical students” to change the way physicians talk about obesity and excess weight, she said. Patients need to understand that physicians care about them, that “we’re not judging and we’re changing that perspective.”
Dr. Laster is also working with members of Congress to get bills passed for coverage of obesity medication and procedures. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke more about the intersection between nutrition, medicine and bariatric procedures and the importance of offering patients multiple solutions.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
It allowed me a little bit of everything. You have clinic, where you can really interact with patients and get to the root of their problem. You have preventative care with routine colonoscopies and upper endoscopies to prevent for cancer. But then you also have fun stuff — which my mom told me to stop saying out loud — ‘bleeders’ and acute things that you get to fix immediately. So, you get the adrenaline rush too. I like it because you get the best of all worlds and it’s really hard to get bored.
Q: How did you become interested in nutrition and bariatric endoscopy?
My parents had a garden and never let us eat processed foods. In residency, I kept seeing the same medical problems over and over again. Everybody had high blood pressure, high cholesterol, and diabetes. Then in GI clinic, everybody had abdominal pain, bloating, constipation, heartburn, and a million GI appointments for these same things. Everyone’s upper endoscopy or colonoscopy was negative. Something else had to be going on.
And that’s sort of where it came from; figuring out the common denominator. It had to be what people were eating. There’s also the prevalence of patients with obesity going up every single year. Correlating all these other medical problems with people’s diets led me down the rabbit hole of: What else can we be doing?
Most people don’t want to undergo surgery. Only 2% of people eligible for surgery actually do it, even though it works. The reasons are because it’s invasive or there’s shame behind it. Bariatric endoscopy is another option that’s out here, that’s less invasive. I’m an endoscopist and gastroenterologist. I should be able to offer all those things and I should know more about nutrition. We don’t talk about it enough.
Q: Do you think more GI doctors should become better educated about nutrition?
100%. Every patient I see has seen a GI doctor before and says, ‘No one has ever told me that if I have carbonated beverages and cheese every day, I’m going to be bloated and constipated.’ And that shouldn’t be the case.
Q: Why do you think that more GI doctors don’t get the education on nutrition during their medical training?
I think it’s our healthcare system. It’s very much focused on secondary treatment rather than preventative care. There’s no emphasis on preventing things from happening.
We’re really good at reactionary medicine. People who have an ulcer, big polyps and colon cancer, esophageal cancer — we do those things really well. But I think because there’s no ICD-10 codes for preventive care via nutrition education, and no good reimbursement, then there’s no incentive for hospital systems to pay for these things. It’s a system based on RVUs (relative value units) and numbers. That’s been our trajectory. We’ve been so focused on reactionary medicine rather than saying, ‘Okay, let’s stop this from happening.’
We just didn’t talk about nutrition in medical school, in residency, or in fellowship. It was looked at as a soft science. When I was in school, people would also say, ‘No one’s going to change. So it’s a waste of your time essentially to talk to people about making dietary changes.’ I feel like if you give people the opportunity, you have to give them the chance. You can’t just write everybody off. Some people won’t change, but that’s okay. They should at least have the opportunity to do so.
Q: How do you determine whether a patient is a good candidate for bariatric surgery?
It’s based on the guidelines: If they meet the BMI requirements, if they have obesity-associated comorbidities, their risk for surgery is low. But it’s also whether they want to do it or not. A patient has to be in the mindset and be ready for it. They need to want to have surgery or bariatric endoscopy, or to use medications, or start to make a change. Some people aren’t there yet — that preemptive stage of making a change. They want the solution, but they’re not ready to do that legwork yet.
And all of it is work. I tell patients, ‘Whether it’s medication or bariatric endoscopy or bariatric surgery, you still have work to do. None of it is going to just magically happen where you could just continue to do the same thing you’re doing now and you’re going to lose weight and keep it off.’
Q: What advances in obesity prevention are you excited about?
I’m excited that bariatric endoscopy came about in the first place, because in every other field there are less invasive approaches that have become available. I’m also excited about the emergence of weight loss medication, like GLP-1s. I think they are a tool that we need.
Q: Do you think the weight loss medications may negate the need for surgery?
I don’t think they necessarily reduce the need for surgery. There’s still a lot we don’t know about why they work in some patients and why they don’t work in others.
Some of our colleagues have come up with phenotypes and blood tests so we can better understand which things will work in different patients. Surgery doesn’t work for some patients. People may need a combination of both after they reach a plateau. I’m excited that people see this as something that we should be researching and putting more effort into — that obesity isn’t a disease of moral failure, that people with excess weight just need to ‘move more’ or ‘eat less’ and it’s their fault. I’m glad people are starting to understand that.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Probably two. One of them is Andrea E Reid, MD, MPH, a dean of medicine at Harvard. She gives you such motivation to achieve things, no matter how big your idea is or how crazy it may seem. If you have something that you think is important, you go after it. Another person is Christopher C. Thompson, MD, at Brigham and Women’s Hospital, the father of bariatric endoscopy in a sense. He embodies what Dr. Reid talks about: crazy big ideas. And he goes after them and he succeeds. Having him push me and giving me that type of encouragement was invaluable.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Every Saturday is yoga or some type of movement. Spending some time outside doing something, whether it’s messing around with plants that I’m not very good at, or going for a walk.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
New York
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
Istanbul
Favorite season?
Fall
Favorite ice cream flavor?
Raspberry sorbet
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
One
Best place you ever went on vacation?
Greece
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Own a clothing store
Favorite type of music?
Old school R&B
Favorite movie genre?
Romantic comedy or drama
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football
Favorite holiday?
Christmas
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
Physician-Scientist Taps into Microbiome to Fight Cancer
The lowest point in the nascent career of Neelendu Dey, MD, helped seal his fate as a physician-scientist.
He had just started his first year as a resident at University of California, San Francisco. One of his patients was a 30-year-old woman who was dying of metastatic colorectal cancer. “I was in my mid-20s interacting with an individual just a few years older than I am, going through one of the most terrible health outcomes one could imagine,” Dr. Dey said.
He remembers asking the patient what he could do for her, how he could make her feel more comfortable. “That feeling of helplessness, particularly as we think about young people developing cancer, it really stuck with me through the years,” he said.
In an interview, he talked about his dual role as a physician and scientist, and how those two interests are guiding his research in precancerous conditions of the colon.
Cases like that of the young woman with colon cancer “really help drive the urgency of the work we do, and the research questions we ask, as we try to move the ball forward and help folks at earlier stages,” he said.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
When you think about what sorts of chronic diseases really impact your quality of life, gut health is one of the chief contributors among various aspects of health. And that really appealed to me — the ability to take someone who is essentially handicapped by a series of illnesses and symptoms that derive from the GI tract and enable them to return to the person they want to be, to be productive in the way that they want to be, and have a rewarding life.
As I thought about how I wanted to contribute to the future of medicine, one of the ways in which I’ve always thought that I would do that is through research. When I considered the fields that really appealed to me, both from that clinical standpoint and research standpoint, GI was one that really stood out. There has been a lot of exciting research going on in GI. My lab currently studies the microbiome, and I feel like this is an area in which we can contribute.
Q: What role does digestive health play in overall health?
Obviously, the direct answer is gut health is so critical in something like nutritional intake. Some GI symptoms, if your gut health has gone awry, can really be detrimental in terms of quality of life. But one less obvious role that digestive health plays is its long-term effects. We’re starting to appreciate that gut health, the gut microbiome, and gut immune education are probably long-term players. Some experiences in early life might shape our immunity in ways that have consequences for us much later in life. Whether we get early life antibiotics, for example, may potentially contribute to colorectal cancer down the line. Thinking about the long-term players is more challenging, but it’s also an appealing opportunity as we think about how we can shape medicine moving forward.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
First, being a physician-scientist. It’s challenging to be either a physician alone or to be a researcher alone. And trying to do both includes the challenges of both individual worlds. It just takes more time to get all the prerequisite training. And second, there are just challenges with getting the opportunities to contribute in the ways that you want — to get the research funding, to get the papers out, things like that.
Q: Tell me about the work you’ve been doing in your lab to develop microbiome-based strategies for preventing and treating cancer.
The microbiome presents several opportunities when it comes to cancer prevention. One is identifying markers of cancer risk, or of general good health down the line. Some of those biomarkers could — potentially — feed directly into personalized risk assessment and maybe even inform a future screening strategy. The second opportunity the microbiome presents is if we identify a microbe that influences your cancer risk, can we then understand and exploit, or utilize, that mechanism to mitigate cancer risk in the future? Our lab has done work looking at subspecies levels of microbes that track with health or cancer. We’ve done some work to identify what these subspecies groupings are and have identified some links to certain precancerous changes in the colon. We think that there’s an opportunity here for future interventions.
Q: Have you published other papers?
We recently published another paper describing how some microbes can interact with a tumor suppressor gene and are influenced in a sex-biased manner to drive tumorigenesis in a mouse model. We think, based on what we’re seeing in human data, that there may be some relationships and we’re exploring that now as well.
Q: What is your vision for the future in GI, and in your career?
The vision that I have is to create clinical tools that can expand our reach and our effectiveness and cancer prevention. I think that there are opportunities for leveraging microbiome research to accomplish this. And one outcome I could imagine is leveraging some of these insights to expand noninvasive screening at even earlier ages than we do now. I mean, we just dialed back the recommended age for colonoscopy for average risk individuals to 45. But I could envision a future in which noninvasive screening starts earlier, in which the first stool-based tests that we deploy to assess personalized risk are used in the pediatric clinic.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite city in the United States besides the one you live in?
St. Louis
Cat or dog person?
Both
If you weren’t a GI, what would you be?
Musician
Best place you went on vacation?
Borneo
Favorite sport?
Soccer
Favorite ice cream?
Cashew-based salted caramel
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Sweet Child of Mine
Favorite movie or TV show?
25th Hour or Shawshank Redemption
Optimist or Pessimist?
Optimist
The lowest point in the nascent career of Neelendu Dey, MD, helped seal his fate as a physician-scientist.
He had just started his first year as a resident at University of California, San Francisco. One of his patients was a 30-year-old woman who was dying of metastatic colorectal cancer. “I was in my mid-20s interacting with an individual just a few years older than I am, going through one of the most terrible health outcomes one could imagine,” Dr. Dey said.
He remembers asking the patient what he could do for her, how he could make her feel more comfortable. “That feeling of helplessness, particularly as we think about young people developing cancer, it really stuck with me through the years,” he said.
In an interview, he talked about his dual role as a physician and scientist, and how those two interests are guiding his research in precancerous conditions of the colon.
Cases like that of the young woman with colon cancer “really help drive the urgency of the work we do, and the research questions we ask, as we try to move the ball forward and help folks at earlier stages,” he said.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
When you think about what sorts of chronic diseases really impact your quality of life, gut health is one of the chief contributors among various aspects of health. And that really appealed to me — the ability to take someone who is essentially handicapped by a series of illnesses and symptoms that derive from the GI tract and enable them to return to the person they want to be, to be productive in the way that they want to be, and have a rewarding life.
As I thought about how I wanted to contribute to the future of medicine, one of the ways in which I’ve always thought that I would do that is through research. When I considered the fields that really appealed to me, both from that clinical standpoint and research standpoint, GI was one that really stood out. There has been a lot of exciting research going on in GI. My lab currently studies the microbiome, and I feel like this is an area in which we can contribute.
Q: What role does digestive health play in overall health?
Obviously, the direct answer is gut health is so critical in something like nutritional intake. Some GI symptoms, if your gut health has gone awry, can really be detrimental in terms of quality of life. But one less obvious role that digestive health plays is its long-term effects. We’re starting to appreciate that gut health, the gut microbiome, and gut immune education are probably long-term players. Some experiences in early life might shape our immunity in ways that have consequences for us much later in life. Whether we get early life antibiotics, for example, may potentially contribute to colorectal cancer down the line. Thinking about the long-term players is more challenging, but it’s also an appealing opportunity as we think about how we can shape medicine moving forward.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
First, being a physician-scientist. It’s challenging to be either a physician alone or to be a researcher alone. And trying to do both includes the challenges of both individual worlds. It just takes more time to get all the prerequisite training. And second, there are just challenges with getting the opportunities to contribute in the ways that you want — to get the research funding, to get the papers out, things like that.
Q: Tell me about the work you’ve been doing in your lab to develop microbiome-based strategies for preventing and treating cancer.
The microbiome presents several opportunities when it comes to cancer prevention. One is identifying markers of cancer risk, or of general good health down the line. Some of those biomarkers could — potentially — feed directly into personalized risk assessment and maybe even inform a future screening strategy. The second opportunity the microbiome presents is if we identify a microbe that influences your cancer risk, can we then understand and exploit, or utilize, that mechanism to mitigate cancer risk in the future? Our lab has done work looking at subspecies levels of microbes that track with health or cancer. We’ve done some work to identify what these subspecies groupings are and have identified some links to certain precancerous changes in the colon. We think that there’s an opportunity here for future interventions.
Q: Have you published other papers?
We recently published another paper describing how some microbes can interact with a tumor suppressor gene and are influenced in a sex-biased manner to drive tumorigenesis in a mouse model. We think, based on what we’re seeing in human data, that there may be some relationships and we’re exploring that now as well.
Q: What is your vision for the future in GI, and in your career?
The vision that I have is to create clinical tools that can expand our reach and our effectiveness and cancer prevention. I think that there are opportunities for leveraging microbiome research to accomplish this. And one outcome I could imagine is leveraging some of these insights to expand noninvasive screening at even earlier ages than we do now. I mean, we just dialed back the recommended age for colonoscopy for average risk individuals to 45. But I could envision a future in which noninvasive screening starts earlier, in which the first stool-based tests that we deploy to assess personalized risk are used in the pediatric clinic.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite city in the United States besides the one you live in?
St. Louis
Cat or dog person?
Both
If you weren’t a GI, what would you be?
Musician
Best place you went on vacation?
Borneo
Favorite sport?
Soccer
Favorite ice cream?
Cashew-based salted caramel
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Sweet Child of Mine
Favorite movie or TV show?
25th Hour or Shawshank Redemption
Optimist or Pessimist?
Optimist
The lowest point in the nascent career of Neelendu Dey, MD, helped seal his fate as a physician-scientist.
He had just started his first year as a resident at University of California, San Francisco. One of his patients was a 30-year-old woman who was dying of metastatic colorectal cancer. “I was in my mid-20s interacting with an individual just a few years older than I am, going through one of the most terrible health outcomes one could imagine,” Dr. Dey said.
He remembers asking the patient what he could do for her, how he could make her feel more comfortable. “That feeling of helplessness, particularly as we think about young people developing cancer, it really stuck with me through the years,” he said.
In an interview, he talked about his dual role as a physician and scientist, and how those two interests are guiding his research in precancerous conditions of the colon.
Cases like that of the young woman with colon cancer “really help drive the urgency of the work we do, and the research questions we ask, as we try to move the ball forward and help folks at earlier stages,” he said.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
When you think about what sorts of chronic diseases really impact your quality of life, gut health is one of the chief contributors among various aspects of health. And that really appealed to me — the ability to take someone who is essentially handicapped by a series of illnesses and symptoms that derive from the GI tract and enable them to return to the person they want to be, to be productive in the way that they want to be, and have a rewarding life.
As I thought about how I wanted to contribute to the future of medicine, one of the ways in which I’ve always thought that I would do that is through research. When I considered the fields that really appealed to me, both from that clinical standpoint and research standpoint, GI was one that really stood out. There has been a lot of exciting research going on in GI. My lab currently studies the microbiome, and I feel like this is an area in which we can contribute.
Q: What role does digestive health play in overall health?
Obviously, the direct answer is gut health is so critical in something like nutritional intake. Some GI symptoms, if your gut health has gone awry, can really be detrimental in terms of quality of life. But one less obvious role that digestive health plays is its long-term effects. We’re starting to appreciate that gut health, the gut microbiome, and gut immune education are probably long-term players. Some experiences in early life might shape our immunity in ways that have consequences for us much later in life. Whether we get early life antibiotics, for example, may potentially contribute to colorectal cancer down the line. Thinking about the long-term players is more challenging, but it’s also an appealing opportunity as we think about how we can shape medicine moving forward.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
First, being a physician-scientist. It’s challenging to be either a physician alone or to be a researcher alone. And trying to do both includes the challenges of both individual worlds. It just takes more time to get all the prerequisite training. And second, there are just challenges with getting the opportunities to contribute in the ways that you want — to get the research funding, to get the papers out, things like that.
Q: Tell me about the work you’ve been doing in your lab to develop microbiome-based strategies for preventing and treating cancer.
The microbiome presents several opportunities when it comes to cancer prevention. One is identifying markers of cancer risk, or of general good health down the line. Some of those biomarkers could — potentially — feed directly into personalized risk assessment and maybe even inform a future screening strategy. The second opportunity the microbiome presents is if we identify a microbe that influences your cancer risk, can we then understand and exploit, or utilize, that mechanism to mitigate cancer risk in the future? Our lab has done work looking at subspecies levels of microbes that track with health or cancer. We’ve done some work to identify what these subspecies groupings are and have identified some links to certain precancerous changes in the colon. We think that there’s an opportunity here for future interventions.
Q: Have you published other papers?
We recently published another paper describing how some microbes can interact with a tumor suppressor gene and are influenced in a sex-biased manner to drive tumorigenesis in a mouse model. We think, based on what we’re seeing in human data, that there may be some relationships and we’re exploring that now as well.
Q: What is your vision for the future in GI, and in your career?
The vision that I have is to create clinical tools that can expand our reach and our effectiveness and cancer prevention. I think that there are opportunities for leveraging microbiome research to accomplish this. And one outcome I could imagine is leveraging some of these insights to expand noninvasive screening at even earlier ages than we do now. I mean, we just dialed back the recommended age for colonoscopy for average risk individuals to 45. But I could envision a future in which noninvasive screening starts earlier, in which the first stool-based tests that we deploy to assess personalized risk are used in the pediatric clinic.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Talking
Favorite city in the United States besides the one you live in?
St. Louis
Cat or dog person?
Both
If you weren’t a GI, what would you be?
Musician
Best place you went on vacation?
Borneo
Favorite sport?
Soccer
Favorite ice cream?
Cashew-based salted caramel
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Sweet Child of Mine
Favorite movie or TV show?
25th Hour or Shawshank Redemption
Optimist or Pessimist?
Optimist
For One Colorado GI, Private Practice Is Anything But Routine
Lisa Mathew, MD, wants to quell any misconceptions that private practice is dull or routine. “That has not been my experience at all,” says Dr. Mathew, a partner with South Denver Gastroenterology in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado.
“It’s an area within GI where we can be quite nimble in trialing new technologies, optimizing patients’ access to care and working to ensure a positive patient experience,” she said.
Nationwide, a flourishing GI private practice community engages in ongoing dialogue about improvements, navigating a changing healthcare environment, and innovation. “That has been a surprising and wonderful twist in my career,” she added.
Dr. Mathew fosters that dialogue through Gastro Broadcast, a podcast she shares with several other GI physicians. Targeted toward private GI practice, it highlights innovations within the community, providing updates on practice management and other technological advances.
In an interview, she spoke frankly about her favorite recent podcast guest, the challenges she’s faced in her career, and why her fellow GI specialists are her “tribe.”
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Mathew: In medical school at Duke University, I was considering going into ob.gyn., but academically I was a little more drawn toward internal medicine. While I was in my residency at the University of Pennsylvania, I really clicked with the gastroenterologists. I enjoyed their sense of humor. They were dealing with complex medical issues but doing so with a sense of levity and enjoyment in their work. When I entered fellowship at the University of Washington, I felt like I found my tribe. This was a group of people who really love their work, love medicine, love being able to develop their procedural skills, and keep a sense of humor about themselves. I married a cardiologist (and he’s a hilarious cardiologist), but the world of cardiology is a little more buttoned up. I like that GI is a little more relaxed.
Q: What gives you the most joy in your day-to-day practice?
Dr. Mathew: My patients. They are funny and genuine, and they allow you into these moments of vulnerability — it’s an honor to walk through that together. I’m always so grateful for the trust they put in me in those moments. As my practice has matured, it’s been incredible to watch those relationships grow, as well as begin caring for husbands, wives, sons and daughters of my patients. I enjoy being a part of my community.
Q: Can you talk about an interesting recent guest you had on your podcast? Who was it and why did he or she stand out?
Dr. Mathew: Russ Arjal, MD, AGAF, cofounder, chief medical officer and president of Telebelly Health. He’s been working on a platform for exclusively telehealth services that improves access to care; pairing patients with brick-and-mortar gastroenterology to provide any necessary procedural care, such as colonoscopy and upper endoscopy. It was a fantastic interview. I think it’s so refreshing and inspiring to see how people innovate within the field of GI. On the procedural side, you see this all the time. With my advanced endoscopy colleagues, they’re constantly pushing the boundaries of what we can do procedurally. My academic colleagues are constantly thinking through what the next best treatment is or how best can we optimize care. And, in the world of private practice, we’re thinking about practice care delivery — how to improve access and make the experience of being a patient better, with the ultimate goal of improving health outcomes.
Q: What fears did you have to push past to get to where you are in your career?
Dr. Mathew: Imposter Syndrome is a very, very common issue, maybe somewhat more for women in GI. I think it’s something that everybody wrestles with to some degree. For me, it was developing confidence not just in my clinical skills, but in learning all the complexities of running a small business. It takes time to develop confidence in your abilities and judgment. I think to some degree, that’s normal. It just takes a while to settle into whatever your chosen career path is. Having a community and strong mentors to support me has made all the difference.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Mathew: One of the greatest challenges in my career has been navigating COVID — both with just the tremendous sea change it had on our ability to practice, as well as the financial consequences to someone in private practice. Those were very challenging times to deliver the care that was needed, protect staff, and to maintain a small business. Fortunately, as with many practices across the nation, we’ve emerged through that.
We pivoted, we innovated with telehealth and other services that allowed us to care for our patients. But there were a lot of lessons learned and a lot of difficult moments.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Mathew: My dad has taught me the value of hard work. Being a physician just comes in tandem with hard work. And my mom, who is a nurse, has always shown the importance of empathy. Without it, everything else is a little empty. Medicine is a combination of skill and hard work, but also an ability to connect with other people. Empathy is essential to that.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Dr. Mathew: We have three children who are native Coloradans so skiing is their birthright. Our entire family are diehard skiers. This is our joy. When you talk about the beach versus mountains debate, we are firmly team mountains. On a perfect Saturday afternoon, I’m on the slopes with my little crew, just tearing it up, having a great time.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Washington, D.C.
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
South America
Favorite junk food?
Candy
Favorite season?
Winter
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2 or 3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Ski coach
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Bunch of grapes
Favorite type of music?
Indie folk
Favorite movie genre?
Books, not into movies
Cat person or dog person?
Neither, but I am a certified beekeeper
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Anything by Queen
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert with introverted tendencies
Favorite holiday?
Thanksgiving
Optimist or pessimist?
100% glass half full
Lisa Mathew, MD, wants to quell any misconceptions that private practice is dull or routine. “That has not been my experience at all,” says Dr. Mathew, a partner with South Denver Gastroenterology in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado.
“It’s an area within GI where we can be quite nimble in trialing new technologies, optimizing patients’ access to care and working to ensure a positive patient experience,” she said.
Nationwide, a flourishing GI private practice community engages in ongoing dialogue about improvements, navigating a changing healthcare environment, and innovation. “That has been a surprising and wonderful twist in my career,” she added.
Dr. Mathew fosters that dialogue through Gastro Broadcast, a podcast she shares with several other GI physicians. Targeted toward private GI practice, it highlights innovations within the community, providing updates on practice management and other technological advances.
In an interview, she spoke frankly about her favorite recent podcast guest, the challenges she’s faced in her career, and why her fellow GI specialists are her “tribe.”
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Mathew: In medical school at Duke University, I was considering going into ob.gyn., but academically I was a little more drawn toward internal medicine. While I was in my residency at the University of Pennsylvania, I really clicked with the gastroenterologists. I enjoyed their sense of humor. They were dealing with complex medical issues but doing so with a sense of levity and enjoyment in their work. When I entered fellowship at the University of Washington, I felt like I found my tribe. This was a group of people who really love their work, love medicine, love being able to develop their procedural skills, and keep a sense of humor about themselves. I married a cardiologist (and he’s a hilarious cardiologist), but the world of cardiology is a little more buttoned up. I like that GI is a little more relaxed.
Q: What gives you the most joy in your day-to-day practice?
Dr. Mathew: My patients. They are funny and genuine, and they allow you into these moments of vulnerability — it’s an honor to walk through that together. I’m always so grateful for the trust they put in me in those moments. As my practice has matured, it’s been incredible to watch those relationships grow, as well as begin caring for husbands, wives, sons and daughters of my patients. I enjoy being a part of my community.
Q: Can you talk about an interesting recent guest you had on your podcast? Who was it and why did he or she stand out?
Dr. Mathew: Russ Arjal, MD, AGAF, cofounder, chief medical officer and president of Telebelly Health. He’s been working on a platform for exclusively telehealth services that improves access to care; pairing patients with brick-and-mortar gastroenterology to provide any necessary procedural care, such as colonoscopy and upper endoscopy. It was a fantastic interview. I think it’s so refreshing and inspiring to see how people innovate within the field of GI. On the procedural side, you see this all the time. With my advanced endoscopy colleagues, they’re constantly pushing the boundaries of what we can do procedurally. My academic colleagues are constantly thinking through what the next best treatment is or how best can we optimize care. And, in the world of private practice, we’re thinking about practice care delivery — how to improve access and make the experience of being a patient better, with the ultimate goal of improving health outcomes.
Q: What fears did you have to push past to get to where you are in your career?
Dr. Mathew: Imposter Syndrome is a very, very common issue, maybe somewhat more for women in GI. I think it’s something that everybody wrestles with to some degree. For me, it was developing confidence not just in my clinical skills, but in learning all the complexities of running a small business. It takes time to develop confidence in your abilities and judgment. I think to some degree, that’s normal. It just takes a while to settle into whatever your chosen career path is. Having a community and strong mentors to support me has made all the difference.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Mathew: One of the greatest challenges in my career has been navigating COVID — both with just the tremendous sea change it had on our ability to practice, as well as the financial consequences to someone in private practice. Those were very challenging times to deliver the care that was needed, protect staff, and to maintain a small business. Fortunately, as with many practices across the nation, we’ve emerged through that.
We pivoted, we innovated with telehealth and other services that allowed us to care for our patients. But there were a lot of lessons learned and a lot of difficult moments.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Mathew: My dad has taught me the value of hard work. Being a physician just comes in tandem with hard work. And my mom, who is a nurse, has always shown the importance of empathy. Without it, everything else is a little empty. Medicine is a combination of skill and hard work, but also an ability to connect with other people. Empathy is essential to that.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Dr. Mathew: We have three children who are native Coloradans so skiing is their birthright. Our entire family are diehard skiers. This is our joy. When you talk about the beach versus mountains debate, we are firmly team mountains. On a perfect Saturday afternoon, I’m on the slopes with my little crew, just tearing it up, having a great time.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Washington, D.C.
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
South America
Favorite junk food?
Candy
Favorite season?
Winter
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2 or 3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Ski coach
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Bunch of grapes
Favorite type of music?
Indie folk
Favorite movie genre?
Books, not into movies
Cat person or dog person?
Neither, but I am a certified beekeeper
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Anything by Queen
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert with introverted tendencies
Favorite holiday?
Thanksgiving
Optimist or pessimist?
100% glass half full
Lisa Mathew, MD, wants to quell any misconceptions that private practice is dull or routine. “That has not been my experience at all,” says Dr. Mathew, a partner with South Denver Gastroenterology in the suburbs of Denver, Colorado.
“It’s an area within GI where we can be quite nimble in trialing new technologies, optimizing patients’ access to care and working to ensure a positive patient experience,” she said.
Nationwide, a flourishing GI private practice community engages in ongoing dialogue about improvements, navigating a changing healthcare environment, and innovation. “That has been a surprising and wonderful twist in my career,” she added.
Dr. Mathew fosters that dialogue through Gastro Broadcast, a podcast she shares with several other GI physicians. Targeted toward private GI practice, it highlights innovations within the community, providing updates on practice management and other technological advances.
In an interview, she spoke frankly about her favorite recent podcast guest, the challenges she’s faced in her career, and why her fellow GI specialists are her “tribe.”
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Mathew: In medical school at Duke University, I was considering going into ob.gyn., but academically I was a little more drawn toward internal medicine. While I was in my residency at the University of Pennsylvania, I really clicked with the gastroenterologists. I enjoyed their sense of humor. They were dealing with complex medical issues but doing so with a sense of levity and enjoyment in their work. When I entered fellowship at the University of Washington, I felt like I found my tribe. This was a group of people who really love their work, love medicine, love being able to develop their procedural skills, and keep a sense of humor about themselves. I married a cardiologist (and he’s a hilarious cardiologist), but the world of cardiology is a little more buttoned up. I like that GI is a little more relaxed.
Q: What gives you the most joy in your day-to-day practice?
Dr. Mathew: My patients. They are funny and genuine, and they allow you into these moments of vulnerability — it’s an honor to walk through that together. I’m always so grateful for the trust they put in me in those moments. As my practice has matured, it’s been incredible to watch those relationships grow, as well as begin caring for husbands, wives, sons and daughters of my patients. I enjoy being a part of my community.
Q: Can you talk about an interesting recent guest you had on your podcast? Who was it and why did he or she stand out?
Dr. Mathew: Russ Arjal, MD, AGAF, cofounder, chief medical officer and president of Telebelly Health. He’s been working on a platform for exclusively telehealth services that improves access to care; pairing patients with brick-and-mortar gastroenterology to provide any necessary procedural care, such as colonoscopy and upper endoscopy. It was a fantastic interview. I think it’s so refreshing and inspiring to see how people innovate within the field of GI. On the procedural side, you see this all the time. With my advanced endoscopy colleagues, they’re constantly pushing the boundaries of what we can do procedurally. My academic colleagues are constantly thinking through what the next best treatment is or how best can we optimize care. And, in the world of private practice, we’re thinking about practice care delivery — how to improve access and make the experience of being a patient better, with the ultimate goal of improving health outcomes.
Q: What fears did you have to push past to get to where you are in your career?
Dr. Mathew: Imposter Syndrome is a very, very common issue, maybe somewhat more for women in GI. I think it’s something that everybody wrestles with to some degree. For me, it was developing confidence not just in my clinical skills, but in learning all the complexities of running a small business. It takes time to develop confidence in your abilities and judgment. I think to some degree, that’s normal. It just takes a while to settle into whatever your chosen career path is. Having a community and strong mentors to support me has made all the difference.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Mathew: One of the greatest challenges in my career has been navigating COVID — both with just the tremendous sea change it had on our ability to practice, as well as the financial consequences to someone in private practice. Those were very challenging times to deliver the care that was needed, protect staff, and to maintain a small business. Fortunately, as with many practices across the nation, we’ve emerged through that.
We pivoted, we innovated with telehealth and other services that allowed us to care for our patients. But there were a lot of lessons learned and a lot of difficult moments.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Mathew: My dad has taught me the value of hard work. Being a physician just comes in tandem with hard work. And my mom, who is a nurse, has always shown the importance of empathy. Without it, everything else is a little empty. Medicine is a combination of skill and hard work, but also an ability to connect with other people. Empathy is essential to that.
Q: Describe how you would spend a free Saturday afternoon.
Dr. Mathew: We have three children who are native Coloradans so skiing is their birthright. Our entire family are diehard skiers. This is our joy. When you talk about the beach versus mountains debate, we are firmly team mountains. On a perfect Saturday afternoon, I’m on the slopes with my little crew, just tearing it up, having a great time.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Washington, D.C.
Favorite breakfast?
Avocado toast
Place you most want to travel to?
South America
Favorite junk food?
Candy
Favorite season?
Winter
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2 or 3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Ski coach
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Bunch of grapes
Favorite type of music?
Indie folk
Favorite movie genre?
Books, not into movies
Cat person or dog person?
Neither, but I am a certified beekeeper
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Anything by Queen
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert with introverted tendencies
Favorite holiday?
Thanksgiving
Optimist or pessimist?
100% glass half full
Want a healthy diet? Eat real food, GI physician advises
What exactly is a healthy diet?
Scott Ketover, MD, AGAF, FASGE, will be the first to admit that’s not an easy question to answer. “As much research and information as we have, we don’t really know what a healthy diet is,” said Dr. Ketover, president and CEO of MNGI Digestive Health in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He was recognized by AGA this year with the Distinguished Clinician Award in Private Practice.
When patients ask questions about a healthy diet, Dr. Ketover responds with a dose of common sense: “If it’s food that didn’t exist in the year 1900, don’t eat it.” Your grandmother’s apple pie is fine in moderation, he said, but the apple pie you get at the McDonald’s drive-through could sit on your shelf for 6 months and look the same.
That is not something you should eat, he emphasizes.
“I really do believe though, that what crosses our lips and gets into our GI tract really underlies our entire health. It’s just that we don’t have enough information yet to know how we can coach people in telling them: eat this, not that,” he added.
In an interview, Dr. Ketover spoke more about the link between the gut microbiome and health, and the young patient who inspired him to become a GI physician.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Ketover: I was a medical student working on my pediatrics rotation at Children’s Minnesota (Minneapolis Pediatrics Hospital). A 17-year-old young man who had Crohn’s disease really turned this into my lifelong passion. The patient confided in me that when he was 11, he had an ileostomy. He wore an ileostomy bag for 6 years and kept it hidden from all his friends. He was petrified of their knowing. And he told me at the age of 17 that if he knew how hard it was going to be to keep that secret, he would’ve preferred to have died rather than have the ileostomy. That got me thinking a lot about Crohn’s disease, and certainly how it affects patients. It became a very motivating thing for me to be involved in something that could potentially prevent this situation for others.
Today, we have much better treatment for Crohn’s than we did 30 years ago. So that’s all a good thing.
Q: Wellness and therapeutic diets are a specific interest of yours. Can you talk about this?
Dr. Ketover: We talk about things like Cheetos, Twinkies — those are not real foods. I do direct patients to ‘think’ when they go to the grocery store. All the good stuff is in the perimeter of the store. When you walk down the aisles, it’s all the processed food with added chemicals. It’s hard to point at specific things though and say: this is bad for you, but we do know that we should eat real food as often as we can. And I think that will contribute to our knowledge and learning about the intestinal microbiome. Again, we’re really at the beginning of our infancy of this, even though there’s lots of probiotics and things out there that claim to make you healthier. We don’t really know yet. And it’s going to take more time.
Q: What role does diet play in improving the intestinal microbiome?
Dr. Ketover: When you look at people who are healthy and who have low incidence of chronic diseases or inflammatory conditions, obesity, cancer, we’re starting to study their microbiome to see how it differs from people who have those illnesses and conditions and try to understand what the different constituents are of the microbiome. And then the big question is: Okay, so once we know that, how do we take ‘the unhealthy microbiome’ and change it to the ‘healthy microbiome’?
The only method we currently have is fecal transplant for Clostridioides difficile. And that’s just not a feasible way to change the microbiome for most people.
Some studies are going on with this. There’s been laboratory studies done with lab animals that show that fecal transplant can reverse obesity.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Ketover: The biggest challenge these days for medical practices is the relationship with the payer world and prior authorization. Where we’ve seen the greatest impact of prior authorization, unfortunately, is in the Medicare Advantage programs. Payers receive money from the federal government on plans that they can better manage the patient on, rather than Medicare. That results in a tremendous amount of prior authorization.
I get particularly incensed when I see that a lot of payers are practicing medicine without a license and they’re not relying on the professionals who are actually in the exam room with patients and doing the history and physical examination to determine what is an appropriate course of diagnosis or therapy for a patient.
It comes around every January. We have patients who are stable on meds, then their insurance gets renewed and the pharmacy formulary changes. Patients stable on various therapies are either kicked off them, or we have to go through the prior authorization process again for the same patient for the umpteenth time to keep them on a stable therapy.
How do I address that? It’s in conversations with payers and policy makers. There’s a lot going on in Washington, talking about prior authorization. I’m not sure that non-practitioners fully feel the pain that it delivers to patients.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Ketover: Phillip M. Kibort, MD, the pediatric physician I worked with as a medical student who really turned me on to GI medicine. We worked together on several patients and I was able to develop an appreciation for the breadth and depth of GI-related abnormalities and diseases and therapies. And I really got excited by the spectrum of opportunity that I would have as a physician to help treat patients with GI illness.
Q: What would you do differently if you had a chance?
Dr. Ketover: I’d travel more both for work and for pleasure. I really enjoy my relationships that I’ve created with lots of other gastroenterologists as well as non-physicians around policy issues. I’m involved in a couple of national organizations that talk to politicians on Capitol Hill and at state houses about patient advocacy. I would have done more of that earlier in my career if I could have.
Q: What do you like to do in your free time?
Dr. Ketover: I like to run, bike, walk. I like being outside as much as possible and enjoy being active.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting, very efficient
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Waikiki, Honolulu
Favorite breakfast?
Pancakes
Place you most want to travel to?
Australia and New Zealand
Favorite junk food?
Pretzels and ice cream
Favorite season?
Summer
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2-3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Public policy writer
Who inspires you?
My wife
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Cowboy
Favorite type of music?
Classic rock
Favorite movie genre?
Science fiction, space exploration
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football — to watch
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Bohemian Rhapsody
Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
What exactly is a healthy diet?
Scott Ketover, MD, AGAF, FASGE, will be the first to admit that’s not an easy question to answer. “As much research and information as we have, we don’t really know what a healthy diet is,” said Dr. Ketover, president and CEO of MNGI Digestive Health in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He was recognized by AGA this year with the Distinguished Clinician Award in Private Practice.
When patients ask questions about a healthy diet, Dr. Ketover responds with a dose of common sense: “If it’s food that didn’t exist in the year 1900, don’t eat it.” Your grandmother’s apple pie is fine in moderation, he said, but the apple pie you get at the McDonald’s drive-through could sit on your shelf for 6 months and look the same.
That is not something you should eat, he emphasizes.
“I really do believe though, that what crosses our lips and gets into our GI tract really underlies our entire health. It’s just that we don’t have enough information yet to know how we can coach people in telling them: eat this, not that,” he added.
In an interview, Dr. Ketover spoke more about the link between the gut microbiome and health, and the young patient who inspired him to become a GI physician.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Ketover: I was a medical student working on my pediatrics rotation at Children’s Minnesota (Minneapolis Pediatrics Hospital). A 17-year-old young man who had Crohn’s disease really turned this into my lifelong passion. The patient confided in me that when he was 11, he had an ileostomy. He wore an ileostomy bag for 6 years and kept it hidden from all his friends. He was petrified of their knowing. And he told me at the age of 17 that if he knew how hard it was going to be to keep that secret, he would’ve preferred to have died rather than have the ileostomy. That got me thinking a lot about Crohn’s disease, and certainly how it affects patients. It became a very motivating thing for me to be involved in something that could potentially prevent this situation for others.
Today, we have much better treatment for Crohn’s than we did 30 years ago. So that’s all a good thing.
Q: Wellness and therapeutic diets are a specific interest of yours. Can you talk about this?
Dr. Ketover: We talk about things like Cheetos, Twinkies — those are not real foods. I do direct patients to ‘think’ when they go to the grocery store. All the good stuff is in the perimeter of the store. When you walk down the aisles, it’s all the processed food with added chemicals. It’s hard to point at specific things though and say: this is bad for you, but we do know that we should eat real food as often as we can. And I think that will contribute to our knowledge and learning about the intestinal microbiome. Again, we’re really at the beginning of our infancy of this, even though there’s lots of probiotics and things out there that claim to make you healthier. We don’t really know yet. And it’s going to take more time.
Q: What role does diet play in improving the intestinal microbiome?
Dr. Ketover: When you look at people who are healthy and who have low incidence of chronic diseases or inflammatory conditions, obesity, cancer, we’re starting to study their microbiome to see how it differs from people who have those illnesses and conditions and try to understand what the different constituents are of the microbiome. And then the big question is: Okay, so once we know that, how do we take ‘the unhealthy microbiome’ and change it to the ‘healthy microbiome’?
The only method we currently have is fecal transplant for Clostridioides difficile. And that’s just not a feasible way to change the microbiome for most people.
Some studies are going on with this. There’s been laboratory studies done with lab animals that show that fecal transplant can reverse obesity.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Ketover: The biggest challenge these days for medical practices is the relationship with the payer world and prior authorization. Where we’ve seen the greatest impact of prior authorization, unfortunately, is in the Medicare Advantage programs. Payers receive money from the federal government on plans that they can better manage the patient on, rather than Medicare. That results in a tremendous amount of prior authorization.
I get particularly incensed when I see that a lot of payers are practicing medicine without a license and they’re not relying on the professionals who are actually in the exam room with patients and doing the history and physical examination to determine what is an appropriate course of diagnosis or therapy for a patient.
It comes around every January. We have patients who are stable on meds, then their insurance gets renewed and the pharmacy formulary changes. Patients stable on various therapies are either kicked off them, or we have to go through the prior authorization process again for the same patient for the umpteenth time to keep them on a stable therapy.
How do I address that? It’s in conversations with payers and policy makers. There’s a lot going on in Washington, talking about prior authorization. I’m not sure that non-practitioners fully feel the pain that it delivers to patients.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Ketover: Phillip M. Kibort, MD, the pediatric physician I worked with as a medical student who really turned me on to GI medicine. We worked together on several patients and I was able to develop an appreciation for the breadth and depth of GI-related abnormalities and diseases and therapies. And I really got excited by the spectrum of opportunity that I would have as a physician to help treat patients with GI illness.
Q: What would you do differently if you had a chance?
Dr. Ketover: I’d travel more both for work and for pleasure. I really enjoy my relationships that I’ve created with lots of other gastroenterologists as well as non-physicians around policy issues. I’m involved in a couple of national organizations that talk to politicians on Capitol Hill and at state houses about patient advocacy. I would have done more of that earlier in my career if I could have.
Q: What do you like to do in your free time?
Dr. Ketover: I like to run, bike, walk. I like being outside as much as possible and enjoy being active.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting, very efficient
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Waikiki, Honolulu
Favorite breakfast?
Pancakes
Place you most want to travel to?
Australia and New Zealand
Favorite junk food?
Pretzels and ice cream
Favorite season?
Summer
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2-3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Public policy writer
Who inspires you?
My wife
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Cowboy
Favorite type of music?
Classic rock
Favorite movie genre?
Science fiction, space exploration
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football — to watch
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Bohemian Rhapsody
Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
What exactly is a healthy diet?
Scott Ketover, MD, AGAF, FASGE, will be the first to admit that’s not an easy question to answer. “As much research and information as we have, we don’t really know what a healthy diet is,” said Dr. Ketover, president and CEO of MNGI Digestive Health in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He was recognized by AGA this year with the Distinguished Clinician Award in Private Practice.
When patients ask questions about a healthy diet, Dr. Ketover responds with a dose of common sense: “If it’s food that didn’t exist in the year 1900, don’t eat it.” Your grandmother’s apple pie is fine in moderation, he said, but the apple pie you get at the McDonald’s drive-through could sit on your shelf for 6 months and look the same.
That is not something you should eat, he emphasizes.
“I really do believe though, that what crosses our lips and gets into our GI tract really underlies our entire health. It’s just that we don’t have enough information yet to know how we can coach people in telling them: eat this, not that,” he added.
In an interview, Dr. Ketover spoke more about the link between the gut microbiome and health, and the young patient who inspired him to become a GI physician.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Ketover: I was a medical student working on my pediatrics rotation at Children’s Minnesota (Minneapolis Pediatrics Hospital). A 17-year-old young man who had Crohn’s disease really turned this into my lifelong passion. The patient confided in me that when he was 11, he had an ileostomy. He wore an ileostomy bag for 6 years and kept it hidden from all his friends. He was petrified of their knowing. And he told me at the age of 17 that if he knew how hard it was going to be to keep that secret, he would’ve preferred to have died rather than have the ileostomy. That got me thinking a lot about Crohn’s disease, and certainly how it affects patients. It became a very motivating thing for me to be involved in something that could potentially prevent this situation for others.
Today, we have much better treatment for Crohn’s than we did 30 years ago. So that’s all a good thing.
Q: Wellness and therapeutic diets are a specific interest of yours. Can you talk about this?
Dr. Ketover: We talk about things like Cheetos, Twinkies — those are not real foods. I do direct patients to ‘think’ when they go to the grocery store. All the good stuff is in the perimeter of the store. When you walk down the aisles, it’s all the processed food with added chemicals. It’s hard to point at specific things though and say: this is bad for you, but we do know that we should eat real food as often as we can. And I think that will contribute to our knowledge and learning about the intestinal microbiome. Again, we’re really at the beginning of our infancy of this, even though there’s lots of probiotics and things out there that claim to make you healthier. We don’t really know yet. And it’s going to take more time.
Q: What role does diet play in improving the intestinal microbiome?
Dr. Ketover: When you look at people who are healthy and who have low incidence of chronic diseases or inflammatory conditions, obesity, cancer, we’re starting to study their microbiome to see how it differs from people who have those illnesses and conditions and try to understand what the different constituents are of the microbiome. And then the big question is: Okay, so once we know that, how do we take ‘the unhealthy microbiome’ and change it to the ‘healthy microbiome’?
The only method we currently have is fecal transplant for Clostridioides difficile. And that’s just not a feasible way to change the microbiome for most people.
Some studies are going on with this. There’s been laboratory studies done with lab animals that show that fecal transplant can reverse obesity.
Q: Describe your biggest practice-related challenge and what you are doing to address it.
Dr. Ketover: The biggest challenge these days for medical practices is the relationship with the payer world and prior authorization. Where we’ve seen the greatest impact of prior authorization, unfortunately, is in the Medicare Advantage programs. Payers receive money from the federal government on plans that they can better manage the patient on, rather than Medicare. That results in a tremendous amount of prior authorization.
I get particularly incensed when I see that a lot of payers are practicing medicine without a license and they’re not relying on the professionals who are actually in the exam room with patients and doing the history and physical examination to determine what is an appropriate course of diagnosis or therapy for a patient.
It comes around every January. We have patients who are stable on meds, then their insurance gets renewed and the pharmacy formulary changes. Patients stable on various therapies are either kicked off them, or we have to go through the prior authorization process again for the same patient for the umpteenth time to keep them on a stable therapy.
How do I address that? It’s in conversations with payers and policy makers. There’s a lot going on in Washington, talking about prior authorization. I’m not sure that non-practitioners fully feel the pain that it delivers to patients.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Ketover: Phillip M. Kibort, MD, the pediatric physician I worked with as a medical student who really turned me on to GI medicine. We worked together on several patients and I was able to develop an appreciation for the breadth and depth of GI-related abnormalities and diseases and therapies. And I really got excited by the spectrum of opportunity that I would have as a physician to help treat patients with GI illness.
Q: What would you do differently if you had a chance?
Dr. Ketover: I’d travel more both for work and for pleasure. I really enjoy my relationships that I’ve created with lots of other gastroenterologists as well as non-physicians around policy issues. I’m involved in a couple of national organizations that talk to politicians on Capitol Hill and at state houses about patient advocacy. I would have done more of that earlier in my career if I could have.
Q: What do you like to do in your free time?
Dr. Ketover: I like to run, bike, walk. I like being outside as much as possible and enjoy being active.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting, very efficient
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Waikiki, Honolulu
Favorite breakfast?
Pancakes
Place you most want to travel to?
Australia and New Zealand
Favorite junk food?
Pretzels and ice cream
Favorite season?
Summer
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
2-3
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Public policy writer
Who inspires you?
My wife
Best Halloween costume you ever wore?
Cowboy
Favorite type of music?
Classic rock
Favorite movie genre?
Science fiction, space exploration
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport?
Football — to watch
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Bohemian Rhapsody
Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist
GI Doc Aims to Lift Barriers to CRC Screening for Black Patients
In gastroenterology, a good bedside manner is a vital attribute. Visiting with an anxious patient before a colonoscopy, Adjoa Anyane-Yeboa, MD, MPH, knew what to say to calm him down.
“I could tell he was really nervous about the procedure, even though he wasn’t letting on,” said Dr. Anyane-Yeboa, a gastroenterologist with Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. She put him at ease by cracking jokes and making him smile during the consent process. After it was over, he thanked her for making him feel more comfortable.
“I will have it done again, and I’ll come back to you next time,” said the patient.
GI doctors perform colonoscopies all day, every day, “so we sometimes forget how nervous people are. But it’s nice to be able to connect with people and put them at ease,” she said.
Interacting with patients gives her joy. Addressing health disparities is her long-term goal. Dr. Anyane-Yeboa’s research has focused on the barriers to colorectal cancer screening in the Black population, as well as disparities in inflammatory bowel disease (IBD).
“I think there’s a lot that still needs to be done around colorectal cancer screening,” she said.
In an interview, she talks more in depth about her research and her ongoing work to increase public knowledge and awareness about colorectal cancer screening.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: When I got to residency, GI was the rotation that was the most fun. I was the most excited to read about it, the most excited to go to work the next day.
I remember people saying, “You should look at the people who are in the field and look at their personalities, and then think about which personalities match you best.” In residency I considered hematology, cardiology, and GI. The cardiologists were so serious, so intense, talking about research methods all the time. Whereas, the GI folks were joking, laughing, making fart jokes. I felt like these were my people, lighthearted and easy-going. And I genuinely enjoyed going to work every day and learning about the disorders of the GI tract. I still do to this day.
Q: Let’s discuss your research with IBD in Black populations and colorectal cancer screening.
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: My two main areas of work are in IBD and minority populations, predominantly Black populations, and in colorectal cancer screening in minority populations, and again, mostly in historically marginalized populations.
With colon cancer, we know that there are disparities with incidence in mortality. Black individuals have had the second highest incidence in mortality from colorectal cancer. For me, being a Black female physician and seeing people who look like me, time and time again, being diagnosed with colorectal cancer and dying is really what drives me, because in GI, colon cancer screening is our bread and butter.
Some of the work that I’m doing now around colorectal cancer is in predominantly Black community health centers, working on increasing colorectal cancer screening rates in this population, and figuring out what the barriers are to screening and how we can address them, and what are some strategies that will work in a health center setting to get people screened.
Q: One study of yours surveyed unscreened Black individuals age ≥ 45 and found age-specific barriers to CRC screening in this population, as well as a lack of targeted messaging to incentivize screening.
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: That mixed method study was done in partnership with the National Colorectal Cancer Roundtable and American Cancer Society.
In that study, we found that the most common barrier to screening was self-procrastination or delay of screening, meaning, “I’m going to get screened, just not right now.” It’s not a priority. What was unique about this is we looked at it from age breakdown, so 45-49, 50-54, 55-plus. With the younger 45-49 group, we don’t know as much about how to get them screened. We also saw that healthcare providers weren’t starting conversations about screening with these younger newly eligible patients.
We also described effective messages to get people screened in that paper as well.
Q: What changes would you like to see going forward with screening? What still needs to happen?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: In some of the other work that I’ve done, particularly with the health centers and younger populations interviewed in focus groups, I’m seeing that those who are younger don’t really know much about colorectal cancer screening. Those who do know about it have seen commercials about popular stool-based testing brands, and that’s how they’ve learned about screening.
What I would like to see is ways to increase the knowledge and awareness about colorectal cancer screening and colorectal cancer on a broad scale, on a more national, public-facing scale. Because I’m realizing that if they’re healthy young folks who aren’t going to the physician, who don’t have a primary care provider, then they might not even really hear about colorectal cancer screening. We need ways to educate the general public so individuals can advocate for themselves around screening.
I also want to see more providers discussing screening with all patients, starting from those 45-49, and younger if they have a family history. Providers should screen every single patient that they see. We know that every single person should be screened at 45 and older, and not all providers, surprisingly, are discussing it with their patients.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: Saturday morning is my favorite time of the week. I’m either catching up on my TV shows, or I might be on a walk with my dog, particularly in the afternoon. I live near an arboretum, so I usually walk through there on the weekend afternoons. I also might be trying out a new restaurant with my friends. I love traveling, so I might also be sightseeing in another country.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite junk food?
Cookies
Cat or dog person?
Both; love cats, have a dog
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Fashion boutique owner
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Morocco
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
Two
Favorite ice cream?
Don’t eat ice cream, only cookies
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist (glass half full)
In gastroenterology, a good bedside manner is a vital attribute. Visiting with an anxious patient before a colonoscopy, Adjoa Anyane-Yeboa, MD, MPH, knew what to say to calm him down.
“I could tell he was really nervous about the procedure, even though he wasn’t letting on,” said Dr. Anyane-Yeboa, a gastroenterologist with Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. She put him at ease by cracking jokes and making him smile during the consent process. After it was over, he thanked her for making him feel more comfortable.
“I will have it done again, and I’ll come back to you next time,” said the patient.
GI doctors perform colonoscopies all day, every day, “so we sometimes forget how nervous people are. But it’s nice to be able to connect with people and put them at ease,” she said.
Interacting with patients gives her joy. Addressing health disparities is her long-term goal. Dr. Anyane-Yeboa’s research has focused on the barriers to colorectal cancer screening in the Black population, as well as disparities in inflammatory bowel disease (IBD).
“I think there’s a lot that still needs to be done around colorectal cancer screening,” she said.
In an interview, she talks more in depth about her research and her ongoing work to increase public knowledge and awareness about colorectal cancer screening.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: When I got to residency, GI was the rotation that was the most fun. I was the most excited to read about it, the most excited to go to work the next day.
I remember people saying, “You should look at the people who are in the field and look at their personalities, and then think about which personalities match you best.” In residency I considered hematology, cardiology, and GI. The cardiologists were so serious, so intense, talking about research methods all the time. Whereas, the GI folks were joking, laughing, making fart jokes. I felt like these were my people, lighthearted and easy-going. And I genuinely enjoyed going to work every day and learning about the disorders of the GI tract. I still do to this day.
Q: Let’s discuss your research with IBD in Black populations and colorectal cancer screening.
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: My two main areas of work are in IBD and minority populations, predominantly Black populations, and in colorectal cancer screening in minority populations, and again, mostly in historically marginalized populations.
With colon cancer, we know that there are disparities with incidence in mortality. Black individuals have had the second highest incidence in mortality from colorectal cancer. For me, being a Black female physician and seeing people who look like me, time and time again, being diagnosed with colorectal cancer and dying is really what drives me, because in GI, colon cancer screening is our bread and butter.
Some of the work that I’m doing now around colorectal cancer is in predominantly Black community health centers, working on increasing colorectal cancer screening rates in this population, and figuring out what the barriers are to screening and how we can address them, and what are some strategies that will work in a health center setting to get people screened.
Q: One study of yours surveyed unscreened Black individuals age ≥ 45 and found age-specific barriers to CRC screening in this population, as well as a lack of targeted messaging to incentivize screening.
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: That mixed method study was done in partnership with the National Colorectal Cancer Roundtable and American Cancer Society.
In that study, we found that the most common barrier to screening was self-procrastination or delay of screening, meaning, “I’m going to get screened, just not right now.” It’s not a priority. What was unique about this is we looked at it from age breakdown, so 45-49, 50-54, 55-plus. With the younger 45-49 group, we don’t know as much about how to get them screened. We also saw that healthcare providers weren’t starting conversations about screening with these younger newly eligible patients.
We also described effective messages to get people screened in that paper as well.
Q: What changes would you like to see going forward with screening? What still needs to happen?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: In some of the other work that I’ve done, particularly with the health centers and younger populations interviewed in focus groups, I’m seeing that those who are younger don’t really know much about colorectal cancer screening. Those who do know about it have seen commercials about popular stool-based testing brands, and that’s how they’ve learned about screening.
What I would like to see is ways to increase the knowledge and awareness about colorectal cancer screening and colorectal cancer on a broad scale, on a more national, public-facing scale. Because I’m realizing that if they’re healthy young folks who aren’t going to the physician, who don’t have a primary care provider, then they might not even really hear about colorectal cancer screening. We need ways to educate the general public so individuals can advocate for themselves around screening.
I also want to see more providers discussing screening with all patients, starting from those 45-49, and younger if they have a family history. Providers should screen every single patient that they see. We know that every single person should be screened at 45 and older, and not all providers, surprisingly, are discussing it with their patients.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: Saturday morning is my favorite time of the week. I’m either catching up on my TV shows, or I might be on a walk with my dog, particularly in the afternoon. I live near an arboretum, so I usually walk through there on the weekend afternoons. I also might be trying out a new restaurant with my friends. I love traveling, so I might also be sightseeing in another country.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite junk food?
Cookies
Cat or dog person?
Both; love cats, have a dog
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Fashion boutique owner
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Morocco
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
Two
Favorite ice cream?
Don’t eat ice cream, only cookies
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist (glass half full)
In gastroenterology, a good bedside manner is a vital attribute. Visiting with an anxious patient before a colonoscopy, Adjoa Anyane-Yeboa, MD, MPH, knew what to say to calm him down.
“I could tell he was really nervous about the procedure, even though he wasn’t letting on,” said Dr. Anyane-Yeboa, a gastroenterologist with Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. She put him at ease by cracking jokes and making him smile during the consent process. After it was over, he thanked her for making him feel more comfortable.
“I will have it done again, and I’ll come back to you next time,” said the patient.
GI doctors perform colonoscopies all day, every day, “so we sometimes forget how nervous people are. But it’s nice to be able to connect with people and put them at ease,” she said.
Interacting with patients gives her joy. Addressing health disparities is her long-term goal. Dr. Anyane-Yeboa’s research has focused on the barriers to colorectal cancer screening in the Black population, as well as disparities in inflammatory bowel disease (IBD).
“I think there’s a lot that still needs to be done around colorectal cancer screening,” she said.
In an interview, she talks more in depth about her research and her ongoing work to increase public knowledge and awareness about colorectal cancer screening.
Q: Why did you choose GI?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: When I got to residency, GI was the rotation that was the most fun. I was the most excited to read about it, the most excited to go to work the next day.
I remember people saying, “You should look at the people who are in the field and look at their personalities, and then think about which personalities match you best.” In residency I considered hematology, cardiology, and GI. The cardiologists were so serious, so intense, talking about research methods all the time. Whereas, the GI folks were joking, laughing, making fart jokes. I felt like these were my people, lighthearted and easy-going. And I genuinely enjoyed going to work every day and learning about the disorders of the GI tract. I still do to this day.
Q: Let’s discuss your research with IBD in Black populations and colorectal cancer screening.
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: My two main areas of work are in IBD and minority populations, predominantly Black populations, and in colorectal cancer screening in minority populations, and again, mostly in historically marginalized populations.
With colon cancer, we know that there are disparities with incidence in mortality. Black individuals have had the second highest incidence in mortality from colorectal cancer. For me, being a Black female physician and seeing people who look like me, time and time again, being diagnosed with colorectal cancer and dying is really what drives me, because in GI, colon cancer screening is our bread and butter.
Some of the work that I’m doing now around colorectal cancer is in predominantly Black community health centers, working on increasing colorectal cancer screening rates in this population, and figuring out what the barriers are to screening and how we can address them, and what are some strategies that will work in a health center setting to get people screened.
Q: One study of yours surveyed unscreened Black individuals age ≥ 45 and found age-specific barriers to CRC screening in this population, as well as a lack of targeted messaging to incentivize screening.
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: That mixed method study was done in partnership with the National Colorectal Cancer Roundtable and American Cancer Society.
In that study, we found that the most common barrier to screening was self-procrastination or delay of screening, meaning, “I’m going to get screened, just not right now.” It’s not a priority. What was unique about this is we looked at it from age breakdown, so 45-49, 50-54, 55-plus. With the younger 45-49 group, we don’t know as much about how to get them screened. We also saw that healthcare providers weren’t starting conversations about screening with these younger newly eligible patients.
We also described effective messages to get people screened in that paper as well.
Q: What changes would you like to see going forward with screening? What still needs to happen?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: In some of the other work that I’ve done, particularly with the health centers and younger populations interviewed in focus groups, I’m seeing that those who are younger don’t really know much about colorectal cancer screening. Those who do know about it have seen commercials about popular stool-based testing brands, and that’s how they’ve learned about screening.
What I would like to see is ways to increase the knowledge and awareness about colorectal cancer screening and colorectal cancer on a broad scale, on a more national, public-facing scale. Because I’m realizing that if they’re healthy young folks who aren’t going to the physician, who don’t have a primary care provider, then they might not even really hear about colorectal cancer screening. We need ways to educate the general public so individuals can advocate for themselves around screening.
I also want to see more providers discussing screening with all patients, starting from those 45-49, and younger if they have a family history. Providers should screen every single patient that they see. We know that every single person should be screened at 45 and older, and not all providers, surprisingly, are discussing it with their patients.
Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?
Dr. Anyane-Yeboa: Saturday morning is my favorite time of the week. I’m either catching up on my TV shows, or I might be on a walk with my dog, particularly in the afternoon. I live near an arboretum, so I usually walk through there on the weekend afternoons. I also might be trying out a new restaurant with my friends. I love traveling, so I might also be sightseeing in another country.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Texting
Favorite junk food?
Cookies
Cat or dog person?
Both; love cats, have a dog
If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?
Fashion boutique owner
Best place you’ve traveled to?
Morocco
How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?
Two
Favorite ice cream?
Don’t eat ice cream, only cookies
Favorite sport?
Tennis
Optimist or pessimist?
Optimist (glass half full)
GI physician channels humor to incentivize cancer screenings
She watched her father suffer from the complications of Crohn’s disease and her brother struggle with irritable bowel syndrome. “We always needed to know where the nearest bathroom was. I grew up with that around me, and I was always just fascinated by the gut and the digestive system,” said Dr. Haghighat, who just finished up her fellowship at the University of Miami and is now a gastroenterologist at University of California, Los Angeles. She also serves as social media editor for AGA’s Gastro Hep Advances.
As she got to know the personalities of the GI department in the first year of medical school, “I realized that our senses of humor and personalities kind of aligned, and I was like, ‘Oh yeah, this is where I’m supposed to be,’ ” said Dr. Haghighat, who can be found on X @DoctorShida.
Humor is something Dr. Haghighat has reached for throughout her life and career. She eventually channeled her gift for satire onto the stage and the internet, as a stand-up comedian. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke about the connection between GI medicine and humor, and the creative ways she has helped promote cancer screening in underserved populations.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
Dr. Haghighat: I trained in a county hospital, so I’ve always worked with underserved and vulnerable populations. One of the challenges has been just navigation of care, especially as it pertains to cancer diagnoses or cancer screening. A lot of the time, patients don’t understand why they have to do a test or something invasive like a colonoscopy for symptoms they don’t have.
Q: A focus of yours has been improving uptake of screening in underserved communities. Please talk about the work you’ve done in this area.
Dr. Haghighat: I was at Los Angeles General Medical Center — a county hospital in Los Angeles — for residency, where we treated underserved, uninsured patients. I noticed in our primary care clinics a very low uptake of colon cancer screening. Patients didn’t want to bring the stool tests back or get colonoscopies. I surveyed a bunch of the patients and asked: How can we make colon cancer screening easier for you? About a third of the patients said, “If I can do it in the clinic before I go home, that would be great.”
So, I started this initiative called “Go Before You Go.” We would ask patients, “Hey, do you need to go to the bathroom right now, if you can?” Our nurses handed them the stool test to do in the bathroom before they left the clinic after their doctor visits.
We saw really good results with that. Surprisingly, a lot of people can go on demand. We saw increased screening rates, and that quality improvement project went on to win multiple first place awards in research competitions. So that’s what got me interested, and that’s where I had my beginnings of increasing preventative services in underserved communities on the ground.
Q: Can you discuss some health disparity studies you’ve done in this area?
Dr. Haghighat: As a GI at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, I was seeing cancer disparities firsthand every day. I wanted to approach these disparities from a research funding standpoint on a federal level. I was particularly interested in gastric cancer because it’s not common enough in the United States to warrant universal screening, but it’s very common among certain racial and ethnic minorities, which would warrant targeted screening.
I evaluated cancer funding allocation from the National Cancer Institute among the most common cancers in the United States and found that cancer afflicting a higher proportion of racial and ethnic minorities was receiving lower funding. One of those cancers was stomach cancer. This study basically highlighted that, to decrease these disparities, a top-down policy approach is necessary to distribute cancer research funding equitably across these groups.
A lot of stomach cancer comes from a bacteria called Helicobacter pylori, which can be more prevalent in certain countries. In another study, I looked at country of birth as a risk factor for stomach cancer, specifically for gastric intestinal metaplasia, which is a precursor for gastric cancer .
We found that country of birth is a key risk factor for gastric intestinal metaplasia and that it should be incorporated into risk stratification for targeted screening.
Q: Outside of medicine, you perform as a stand-up comedian. You have a popular satirical alias on social media. How did you get interested in stand-up comedy?
Dr. Haghighat: I gave my medical school’s commencement speech, and I had sprinkled a few jokes in there. Afterward, multiple people approached me and said, “You should really consider stand-up comedy. Your timing and delivery are great.” A few months later, I started my intern year in Los Angeles and simultaneously took stand-up comedy classes. I started performing at local clubs around town throughout residency, and I had two or three good sets that I could rely on. And so that’s how I got into stand-up comedy.
My intern year is also when I started this social media satire account. It was a way to cope with the anxieties and stress of residency. Before I knew it, the account gained multitudes of followers, doctors, and other medical professionals. And I joke that the more hours I work in a week, the more memes I make, the more posts I make. It’s kind of a creative outlet for me after a long day.
Q: What types of things do you talk about during your stand-up act?
Dr. Haghighat: A lot of it is about growing up in an immigrant household as a first-generation Iranian American. One of my favorite jokes is, my parents gave me so many options for a career. They said I could be a family doctor, a surgeon, a plastic surgeon, and if I worked hard, even a wife of a surgeon. But I talk a lot about being a woman in medicine. That always gets a lot of laughs. And now that I’ve graduated GI fellowship, I’m excited to incorporate some GI jokes because it turns out people love poop jokes.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Denver
Cat or dog person
Dog
Best place you went on vacation
Patagonia
Favorite sport
Basketball
Favorite ice cream
Rocky Road
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Celine Dion’s My Heart Will Go On
She watched her father suffer from the complications of Crohn’s disease and her brother struggle with irritable bowel syndrome. “We always needed to know where the nearest bathroom was. I grew up with that around me, and I was always just fascinated by the gut and the digestive system,” said Dr. Haghighat, who just finished up her fellowship at the University of Miami and is now a gastroenterologist at University of California, Los Angeles. She also serves as social media editor for AGA’s Gastro Hep Advances.
As she got to know the personalities of the GI department in the first year of medical school, “I realized that our senses of humor and personalities kind of aligned, and I was like, ‘Oh yeah, this is where I’m supposed to be,’ ” said Dr. Haghighat, who can be found on X @DoctorShida.
Humor is something Dr. Haghighat has reached for throughout her life and career. She eventually channeled her gift for satire onto the stage and the internet, as a stand-up comedian. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke about the connection between GI medicine and humor, and the creative ways she has helped promote cancer screening in underserved populations.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
Dr. Haghighat: I trained in a county hospital, so I’ve always worked with underserved and vulnerable populations. One of the challenges has been just navigation of care, especially as it pertains to cancer diagnoses or cancer screening. A lot of the time, patients don’t understand why they have to do a test or something invasive like a colonoscopy for symptoms they don’t have.
Q: A focus of yours has been improving uptake of screening in underserved communities. Please talk about the work you’ve done in this area.
Dr. Haghighat: I was at Los Angeles General Medical Center — a county hospital in Los Angeles — for residency, where we treated underserved, uninsured patients. I noticed in our primary care clinics a very low uptake of colon cancer screening. Patients didn’t want to bring the stool tests back or get colonoscopies. I surveyed a bunch of the patients and asked: How can we make colon cancer screening easier for you? About a third of the patients said, “If I can do it in the clinic before I go home, that would be great.”
So, I started this initiative called “Go Before You Go.” We would ask patients, “Hey, do you need to go to the bathroom right now, if you can?” Our nurses handed them the stool test to do in the bathroom before they left the clinic after their doctor visits.
We saw really good results with that. Surprisingly, a lot of people can go on demand. We saw increased screening rates, and that quality improvement project went on to win multiple first place awards in research competitions. So that’s what got me interested, and that’s where I had my beginnings of increasing preventative services in underserved communities on the ground.
Q: Can you discuss some health disparity studies you’ve done in this area?
Dr. Haghighat: As a GI at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, I was seeing cancer disparities firsthand every day. I wanted to approach these disparities from a research funding standpoint on a federal level. I was particularly interested in gastric cancer because it’s not common enough in the United States to warrant universal screening, but it’s very common among certain racial and ethnic minorities, which would warrant targeted screening.
I evaluated cancer funding allocation from the National Cancer Institute among the most common cancers in the United States and found that cancer afflicting a higher proportion of racial and ethnic minorities was receiving lower funding. One of those cancers was stomach cancer. This study basically highlighted that, to decrease these disparities, a top-down policy approach is necessary to distribute cancer research funding equitably across these groups.
A lot of stomach cancer comes from a bacteria called Helicobacter pylori, which can be more prevalent in certain countries. In another study, I looked at country of birth as a risk factor for stomach cancer, specifically for gastric intestinal metaplasia, which is a precursor for gastric cancer .
We found that country of birth is a key risk factor for gastric intestinal metaplasia and that it should be incorporated into risk stratification for targeted screening.
Q: Outside of medicine, you perform as a stand-up comedian. You have a popular satirical alias on social media. How did you get interested in stand-up comedy?
Dr. Haghighat: I gave my medical school’s commencement speech, and I had sprinkled a few jokes in there. Afterward, multiple people approached me and said, “You should really consider stand-up comedy. Your timing and delivery are great.” A few months later, I started my intern year in Los Angeles and simultaneously took stand-up comedy classes. I started performing at local clubs around town throughout residency, and I had two or three good sets that I could rely on. And so that’s how I got into stand-up comedy.
My intern year is also when I started this social media satire account. It was a way to cope with the anxieties and stress of residency. Before I knew it, the account gained multitudes of followers, doctors, and other medical professionals. And I joke that the more hours I work in a week, the more memes I make, the more posts I make. It’s kind of a creative outlet for me after a long day.
Q: What types of things do you talk about during your stand-up act?
Dr. Haghighat: A lot of it is about growing up in an immigrant household as a first-generation Iranian American. One of my favorite jokes is, my parents gave me so many options for a career. They said I could be a family doctor, a surgeon, a plastic surgeon, and if I worked hard, even a wife of a surgeon. But I talk a lot about being a woman in medicine. That always gets a lot of laughs. And now that I’ve graduated GI fellowship, I’m excited to incorporate some GI jokes because it turns out people love poop jokes.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Denver
Cat or dog person
Dog
Best place you went on vacation
Patagonia
Favorite sport
Basketball
Favorite ice cream
Rocky Road
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Celine Dion’s My Heart Will Go On
She watched her father suffer from the complications of Crohn’s disease and her brother struggle with irritable bowel syndrome. “We always needed to know where the nearest bathroom was. I grew up with that around me, and I was always just fascinated by the gut and the digestive system,” said Dr. Haghighat, who just finished up her fellowship at the University of Miami and is now a gastroenterologist at University of California, Los Angeles. She also serves as social media editor for AGA’s Gastro Hep Advances.
As she got to know the personalities of the GI department in the first year of medical school, “I realized that our senses of humor and personalities kind of aligned, and I was like, ‘Oh yeah, this is where I’m supposed to be,’ ” said Dr. Haghighat, who can be found on X @DoctorShida.
Humor is something Dr. Haghighat has reached for throughout her life and career. She eventually channeled her gift for satire onto the stage and the internet, as a stand-up comedian. In an interview with GI & Hepatology News, she spoke about the connection between GI medicine and humor, and the creative ways she has helped promote cancer screening in underserved populations.
Q: What practice challenges have you faced in your career?
Dr. Haghighat: I trained in a county hospital, so I’ve always worked with underserved and vulnerable populations. One of the challenges has been just navigation of care, especially as it pertains to cancer diagnoses or cancer screening. A lot of the time, patients don’t understand why they have to do a test or something invasive like a colonoscopy for symptoms they don’t have.
Q: A focus of yours has been improving uptake of screening in underserved communities. Please talk about the work you’ve done in this area.
Dr. Haghighat: I was at Los Angeles General Medical Center — a county hospital in Los Angeles — for residency, where we treated underserved, uninsured patients. I noticed in our primary care clinics a very low uptake of colon cancer screening. Patients didn’t want to bring the stool tests back or get colonoscopies. I surveyed a bunch of the patients and asked: How can we make colon cancer screening easier for you? About a third of the patients said, “If I can do it in the clinic before I go home, that would be great.”
So, I started this initiative called “Go Before You Go.” We would ask patients, “Hey, do you need to go to the bathroom right now, if you can?” Our nurses handed them the stool test to do in the bathroom before they left the clinic after their doctor visits.
We saw really good results with that. Surprisingly, a lot of people can go on demand. We saw increased screening rates, and that quality improvement project went on to win multiple first place awards in research competitions. So that’s what got me interested, and that’s where I had my beginnings of increasing preventative services in underserved communities on the ground.
Q: Can you discuss some health disparity studies you’ve done in this area?
Dr. Haghighat: As a GI at Jackson Memorial Hospital in Miami, I was seeing cancer disparities firsthand every day. I wanted to approach these disparities from a research funding standpoint on a federal level. I was particularly interested in gastric cancer because it’s not common enough in the United States to warrant universal screening, but it’s very common among certain racial and ethnic minorities, which would warrant targeted screening.
I evaluated cancer funding allocation from the National Cancer Institute among the most common cancers in the United States and found that cancer afflicting a higher proportion of racial and ethnic minorities was receiving lower funding. One of those cancers was stomach cancer. This study basically highlighted that, to decrease these disparities, a top-down policy approach is necessary to distribute cancer research funding equitably across these groups.
A lot of stomach cancer comes from a bacteria called Helicobacter pylori, which can be more prevalent in certain countries. In another study, I looked at country of birth as a risk factor for stomach cancer, specifically for gastric intestinal metaplasia, which is a precursor for gastric cancer .
We found that country of birth is a key risk factor for gastric intestinal metaplasia and that it should be incorporated into risk stratification for targeted screening.
Q: Outside of medicine, you perform as a stand-up comedian. You have a popular satirical alias on social media. How did you get interested in stand-up comedy?
Dr. Haghighat: I gave my medical school’s commencement speech, and I had sprinkled a few jokes in there. Afterward, multiple people approached me and said, “You should really consider stand-up comedy. Your timing and delivery are great.” A few months later, I started my intern year in Los Angeles and simultaneously took stand-up comedy classes. I started performing at local clubs around town throughout residency, and I had two or three good sets that I could rely on. And so that’s how I got into stand-up comedy.
My intern year is also when I started this social media satire account. It was a way to cope with the anxieties and stress of residency. Before I knew it, the account gained multitudes of followers, doctors, and other medical professionals. And I joke that the more hours I work in a week, the more memes I make, the more posts I make. It’s kind of a creative outlet for me after a long day.
Q: What types of things do you talk about during your stand-up act?
Dr. Haghighat: A lot of it is about growing up in an immigrant household as a first-generation Iranian American. One of my favorite jokes is, my parents gave me so many options for a career. They said I could be a family doctor, a surgeon, a plastic surgeon, and if I worked hard, even a wife of a surgeon. But I talk a lot about being a woman in medicine. That always gets a lot of laughs. And now that I’ve graduated GI fellowship, I’m excited to incorporate some GI jokes because it turns out people love poop jokes.
Lightning Round
Texting or talking?
Text
Favorite city in U.S. besides the one you live in?
Denver
Cat or dog person
Dog
Best place you went on vacation
Patagonia
Favorite sport
Basketball
Favorite ice cream
Rocky Road
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
Celine Dion’s My Heart Will Go On
The Gamer Who Became a GI Hospitalist and Dedicated Endoscopist
Reflecting on his career in gastroenterology, Andy Tau, MD, (@DrBloodandGuts on X) claims the discipline chose him, in many ways.
“I love gaming, which my mom said would never pay off. Then one day she nearly died from a peptic ulcer, and endoscopy saved her,” said Dr. Tau, a GI hospitalist who practices with Austin Gastroenterology in Austin, Texas. One of his specialties is endoscopic hemostasis.
Endoscopy functions similarly to a game because the interface between the operator and the patient is a controller and a video screen, he explained. “Movements in my hands translate directly onto the screen. Obviously, endoscopy is serious business, but the tactile feel was very familiar and satisfying to me.”
Advocating for the GI hospitalist and the versatile role they play in hospital medicine, is another passion of his. “The dedicated GI hospitalist indirectly improves the efficiency of an outpatient practice, while directly improving inpatient outcomes, collegiality, and even one’s own skills as an endoscopist,” Dr. Tau wrote in an opinion piece in GI & Hepatology News .
He expounded more on this topic and others in an interview, recalling what he learned from one mentor about maintaining a sense of humor at the bedside.
Q: You’ve said that GI hospitalists are the future of patient care. Can you explain why you feel this way?
Dr. Tau: From a quality perspective, even though it’s hard to put into one word, the care of acute GI pathology and endoscopy can be seen as a specialty in and of itself. These skills include hemostasis, enteral access, percutaneous endoscopic gastrostomy (PEG), balloon-assisted enteroscopy, luminal stenting, advanced tissue closure, and endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography. The greater availability of a GI hospitalist, as opposed to an outpatient GI doctor rounding at the ends of days, likely shortens admissions and improves the logistics of scheduling inpatient cases.
From a financial perspective, the landscape of GI practice is changing because of GI physician shortages relative to increased demand for outpatient procedures. Namely, the outpatient gastroenterologists simply have too much on their plate and inefficiencies abound when they have to juggle inpatient and outpatient work. Thus, two tracks are forming, especially in large busy hospitals. This is the same evolution of the pure outpatient internist and inpatient internist 20 years ago.
Q: What attributes does a GI hospitalist bring to the table?
Dr. Tau: A GI hospitalist is one who can multitask through interruptions, manage end-of-life issues, craves therapeutic endoscopy (even if that’s hemostasis), and can keep more erratic hours based on the number of consults that come in. She/he tends to want immediate gratification and doesn’t mind the lack of continuity of care. Lastly, the GI hospitalist has to be brave and yet careful as the patients are sicker and thus complications may be higher and certainly less well tolerated.
Q: Are there enough of them going into practice right now?
Dr. Tau: Not really! The demand seems to outstrip supply based on what I see. There is a definite financial lure as the market rate for them rises (because more GIs are leaving the hospital for pure outpatient practice), but burnout can be an issue. Interestingly, fellows are typically highly trained and familiar with inpatient work, but once in practice, most choose the outpatient track. I think it’s a combination of work-life balance, inefficiency of inpatient endoscopy, and perhaps the strain of daily, erratic consultation.
Q: You received the 2021 Travis County Medical Society (TCMS) Young Physician of the Year. What achievements led to this honor?
Dr. Tau: I am not sure I am deserving of that award, but I think it was related to personal risk and some long hours as a GI hospitalist during the COVID pandemic. I may have the unfortunate distinction of performing more procedures on COVID patients than any other physician in the city. My hospital was the largest COVID-designated site in the city. There were countless PEG tubes in COVID survivors and a lot of bleeders for some reason. A critical care physician on the front lines and health director of the city of Austin received Physician of the Year, deservedly.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Tau: David Y. Graham, MD, MACG, got me into GI as a medical student and taught me to never tolerate any loose ends when it came to patient care as a resident. He trained me at every level — from medical school, residency, and through my fellowship. His advice is often delivered sly and dry, but his humor-laden truths continue to ring true throughout my life. One story: my whole family tested positive for Helicobacter pylori after my mother survived peptic ulcer hemorrhage. I was the only one who tested negative! I asked Dr Graham about it and he quipped, “You’re lucky! It’s because your mother didn’t love (and kiss) you as much!”
Even to this moment I laugh about that. I share that with my patients when they ask about how they contracted H. pylori.
Lightning Round
Favorite junk food?
McDonalds fries
Favorite movie genre?
Psychological thriller
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
What was your favorite Halloween costume?
Ninja turtle
Favorite sport:
Football (played in college)
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert unless sleep deprived.
Favorite holiday:
Thanksgiving
The book you read over and over:
Swiss Family Robinson
Favorite travel destination:
Hawaii
Optimist or pessimist?
A happy pessimist.
Reflecting on his career in gastroenterology, Andy Tau, MD, (@DrBloodandGuts on X) claims the discipline chose him, in many ways.
“I love gaming, which my mom said would never pay off. Then one day she nearly died from a peptic ulcer, and endoscopy saved her,” said Dr. Tau, a GI hospitalist who practices with Austin Gastroenterology in Austin, Texas. One of his specialties is endoscopic hemostasis.
Endoscopy functions similarly to a game because the interface between the operator and the patient is a controller and a video screen, he explained. “Movements in my hands translate directly onto the screen. Obviously, endoscopy is serious business, but the tactile feel was very familiar and satisfying to me.”
Advocating for the GI hospitalist and the versatile role they play in hospital medicine, is another passion of his. “The dedicated GI hospitalist indirectly improves the efficiency of an outpatient practice, while directly improving inpatient outcomes, collegiality, and even one’s own skills as an endoscopist,” Dr. Tau wrote in an opinion piece in GI & Hepatology News .
He expounded more on this topic and others in an interview, recalling what he learned from one mentor about maintaining a sense of humor at the bedside.
Q: You’ve said that GI hospitalists are the future of patient care. Can you explain why you feel this way?
Dr. Tau: From a quality perspective, even though it’s hard to put into one word, the care of acute GI pathology and endoscopy can be seen as a specialty in and of itself. These skills include hemostasis, enteral access, percutaneous endoscopic gastrostomy (PEG), balloon-assisted enteroscopy, luminal stenting, advanced tissue closure, and endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography. The greater availability of a GI hospitalist, as opposed to an outpatient GI doctor rounding at the ends of days, likely shortens admissions and improves the logistics of scheduling inpatient cases.
From a financial perspective, the landscape of GI practice is changing because of GI physician shortages relative to increased demand for outpatient procedures. Namely, the outpatient gastroenterologists simply have too much on their plate and inefficiencies abound when they have to juggle inpatient and outpatient work. Thus, two tracks are forming, especially in large busy hospitals. This is the same evolution of the pure outpatient internist and inpatient internist 20 years ago.
Q: What attributes does a GI hospitalist bring to the table?
Dr. Tau: A GI hospitalist is one who can multitask through interruptions, manage end-of-life issues, craves therapeutic endoscopy (even if that’s hemostasis), and can keep more erratic hours based on the number of consults that come in. She/he tends to want immediate gratification and doesn’t mind the lack of continuity of care. Lastly, the GI hospitalist has to be brave and yet careful as the patients are sicker and thus complications may be higher and certainly less well tolerated.
Q: Are there enough of them going into practice right now?
Dr. Tau: Not really! The demand seems to outstrip supply based on what I see. There is a definite financial lure as the market rate for them rises (because more GIs are leaving the hospital for pure outpatient practice), but burnout can be an issue. Interestingly, fellows are typically highly trained and familiar with inpatient work, but once in practice, most choose the outpatient track. I think it’s a combination of work-life balance, inefficiency of inpatient endoscopy, and perhaps the strain of daily, erratic consultation.
Q: You received the 2021 Travis County Medical Society (TCMS) Young Physician of the Year. What achievements led to this honor?
Dr. Tau: I am not sure I am deserving of that award, but I think it was related to personal risk and some long hours as a GI hospitalist during the COVID pandemic. I may have the unfortunate distinction of performing more procedures on COVID patients than any other physician in the city. My hospital was the largest COVID-designated site in the city. There were countless PEG tubes in COVID survivors and a lot of bleeders for some reason. A critical care physician on the front lines and health director of the city of Austin received Physician of the Year, deservedly.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Tau: David Y. Graham, MD, MACG, got me into GI as a medical student and taught me to never tolerate any loose ends when it came to patient care as a resident. He trained me at every level — from medical school, residency, and through my fellowship. His advice is often delivered sly and dry, but his humor-laden truths continue to ring true throughout my life. One story: my whole family tested positive for Helicobacter pylori after my mother survived peptic ulcer hemorrhage. I was the only one who tested negative! I asked Dr Graham about it and he quipped, “You’re lucky! It’s because your mother didn’t love (and kiss) you as much!”
Even to this moment I laugh about that. I share that with my patients when they ask about how they contracted H. pylori.
Lightning Round
Favorite junk food?
McDonalds fries
Favorite movie genre?
Psychological thriller
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
What was your favorite Halloween costume?
Ninja turtle
Favorite sport:
Football (played in college)
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert unless sleep deprived.
Favorite holiday:
Thanksgiving
The book you read over and over:
Swiss Family Robinson
Favorite travel destination:
Hawaii
Optimist or pessimist?
A happy pessimist.
Reflecting on his career in gastroenterology, Andy Tau, MD, (@DrBloodandGuts on X) claims the discipline chose him, in many ways.
“I love gaming, which my mom said would never pay off. Then one day she nearly died from a peptic ulcer, and endoscopy saved her,” said Dr. Tau, a GI hospitalist who practices with Austin Gastroenterology in Austin, Texas. One of his specialties is endoscopic hemostasis.
Endoscopy functions similarly to a game because the interface between the operator and the patient is a controller and a video screen, he explained. “Movements in my hands translate directly onto the screen. Obviously, endoscopy is serious business, but the tactile feel was very familiar and satisfying to me.”
Advocating for the GI hospitalist and the versatile role they play in hospital medicine, is another passion of his. “The dedicated GI hospitalist indirectly improves the efficiency of an outpatient practice, while directly improving inpatient outcomes, collegiality, and even one’s own skills as an endoscopist,” Dr. Tau wrote in an opinion piece in GI & Hepatology News .
He expounded more on this topic and others in an interview, recalling what he learned from one mentor about maintaining a sense of humor at the bedside.
Q: You’ve said that GI hospitalists are the future of patient care. Can you explain why you feel this way?
Dr. Tau: From a quality perspective, even though it’s hard to put into one word, the care of acute GI pathology and endoscopy can be seen as a specialty in and of itself. These skills include hemostasis, enteral access, percutaneous endoscopic gastrostomy (PEG), balloon-assisted enteroscopy, luminal stenting, advanced tissue closure, and endoscopic retrograde cholangiopancreatography. The greater availability of a GI hospitalist, as opposed to an outpatient GI doctor rounding at the ends of days, likely shortens admissions and improves the logistics of scheduling inpatient cases.
From a financial perspective, the landscape of GI practice is changing because of GI physician shortages relative to increased demand for outpatient procedures. Namely, the outpatient gastroenterologists simply have too much on their plate and inefficiencies abound when they have to juggle inpatient and outpatient work. Thus, two tracks are forming, especially in large busy hospitals. This is the same evolution of the pure outpatient internist and inpatient internist 20 years ago.
Q: What attributes does a GI hospitalist bring to the table?
Dr. Tau: A GI hospitalist is one who can multitask through interruptions, manage end-of-life issues, craves therapeutic endoscopy (even if that’s hemostasis), and can keep more erratic hours based on the number of consults that come in. She/he tends to want immediate gratification and doesn’t mind the lack of continuity of care. Lastly, the GI hospitalist has to be brave and yet careful as the patients are sicker and thus complications may be higher and certainly less well tolerated.
Q: Are there enough of them going into practice right now?
Dr. Tau: Not really! The demand seems to outstrip supply based on what I see. There is a definite financial lure as the market rate for them rises (because more GIs are leaving the hospital for pure outpatient practice), but burnout can be an issue. Interestingly, fellows are typically highly trained and familiar with inpatient work, but once in practice, most choose the outpatient track. I think it’s a combination of work-life balance, inefficiency of inpatient endoscopy, and perhaps the strain of daily, erratic consultation.
Q: You received the 2021 Travis County Medical Society (TCMS) Young Physician of the Year. What achievements led to this honor?
Dr. Tau: I am not sure I am deserving of that award, but I think it was related to personal risk and some long hours as a GI hospitalist during the COVID pandemic. I may have the unfortunate distinction of performing more procedures on COVID patients than any other physician in the city. My hospital was the largest COVID-designated site in the city. There were countless PEG tubes in COVID survivors and a lot of bleeders for some reason. A critical care physician on the front lines and health director of the city of Austin received Physician of the Year, deservedly.
Q: What teacher or mentor had the greatest impact on you?
Dr. Tau: David Y. Graham, MD, MACG, got me into GI as a medical student and taught me to never tolerate any loose ends when it came to patient care as a resident. He trained me at every level — from medical school, residency, and through my fellowship. His advice is often delivered sly and dry, but his humor-laden truths continue to ring true throughout my life. One story: my whole family tested positive for Helicobacter pylori after my mother survived peptic ulcer hemorrhage. I was the only one who tested negative! I asked Dr Graham about it and he quipped, “You’re lucky! It’s because your mother didn’t love (and kiss) you as much!”
Even to this moment I laugh about that. I share that with my patients when they ask about how they contracted H. pylori.
Lightning Round
Favorite junk food?
McDonalds fries
Favorite movie genre?
Psychological thriller
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
What was your favorite Halloween costume?
Ninja turtle
Favorite sport:
Football (played in college)
Introvert or extrovert?
Extrovert unless sleep deprived.
Favorite holiday:
Thanksgiving
The book you read over and over:
Swiss Family Robinson
Favorite travel destination:
Hawaii
Optimist or pessimist?
A happy pessimist.
Gastroenterologist advocates for fair coverage, reduced physician burden
Faced with an opportunity to advocate for patients, Rajeev Jain, MD, AGAF, is never afraid to speak up. He recently spoke out publicly against a major payer’s new advance notification process for colonoscopy and endoscopy procedures, cautioning it was a glidepath toward far-reaching prior authorization requirements.
UnitedHealthcare plans to collect a larger scope of data for this new policy, “which I fear will disrupt and deny patients’ access to lifesaving care,” Dr. Jain, a gastroenterologist with Texas Digestive Disease Consultants and a member of the American Gastroenterological Association’s (AGA) Prior Authorization Reform Task Force, wrote in an opinion piece in the Dallas Morning News.
Insurance coverage should be fair to the end goal of taking good care of patients, said Dr. Jain. “And if they’re putting processes in place, which are solely to be an impediment to excellent care, then that’s not right.”
Through his extensive participation in AGA panels and other influential groups, Dr. Jain has sought to improve clinical practice and reduce physician burnout. As Director and now Chair of the Board of Directors” of the American Board of Internal Medicine, Dr. Jain participated in conversations to make the maintenance of certification (MOC) process more accessible and less burdensome for doctors.
People spent a lot of time studying for ABIM’s 10-year MOC exam, sometimes even taking a course to help them pass. Now, there’s an option in all specialties to take a 30-question exam every quarter.
On average, it takes someone roughly 2 minutes to answer each question on this short exam. “Per quarter, you’re roughly spending an hour to do that instead of taking a big 10-year exam, where people were spending money and missing work,” said Dr. Jain. This modality enables physicians to meet credentialing requirements “in a way that it meets many of the desires of our practitioners,” he added.
Dr. Jain expounded on his work to advocate for patients and physicians in an interview.
Q: I’d like to discuss your opinion piece on UnitedHealthcare’s advanced notification process. Where does that policy stand now? I’m wondering if your opinion piece led to any changes.
Dr. Jain: There’s not a metric I can use to measure its success. But I will tell you this: I’ve had numerous patients mention to me, “Hey, I saw your article in the Dallas Morning News. That was great.” And that would lead to a conversation.
Q: Why do you think UHC’s policy was a tool for prior authorization?
Dr. Jain: Imagine you go to see a gastroenterologist in clinic, and the GI believes you need a procedure for certain symptoms or abnormal laboratory tests or imaging. It’s not a screening procedure. It’s a diagnostic procedure. Now, the insurance company is going to say, “Well, we can’t schedule that until you do a preauthorization.”
That could take a day. It could take a week. It could take longer. And now, the patient has lost that moment where they can get this settled. It’s not just the schedule for the patient. They’re going to get anesthesia, be it conscious sedation or deeper sedation, and they’re going to need a ride home. They have to coordinate things with family members or friends. Those little logistics add up to a lot of times why patients cancel or don’t show up or don’t follow through, because we couldn’t get it scheduled at that moment.
I feel like we are trying to attack this problem from many different angles, and my opinion piece was one of those tactics. The patients and the rank-and-file gastroenterologists appreciate the AGA being at the forefront of this issue.
Q: Your interests range from colon cancer to Barrett’s esophagus and inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Is there an area of focus you feel passionate about?
Dr. Jain: Through AGA, I was the cochair of the IBD Parenthood Project, which convened subject-matter experts outside of GI, including maternal-fetal medicine, lactation experts, and patients. We came up with a care pathway for women in their reproductive years who have inflammatory bowel disease, including how they should think about family planning and what they should do during pregnancy and then the postpartum. Those kinds of things have really kept me energized. It’s sort of an antidote to burnout.
Q: Who are your mentors?
Dr. Jain: I would say the late Dan Foster, MD, who was the chair of medicine at UT Southwestern, and Mark Feldman, MD, AGAF, who held leadership roles at the Dallas VA Medical Center and then Texas Health Dallas. He retired a few years ago. They both expected physicians to understand the knowledge of how we were taking care of the patient and our professionalism. There’s also my senior partner, Peter Loeb, MD, AGAF, who’s now retired. He had an insatiable appetite for knowledge. Every time I’d come back from a meeting, he’d say, “Rajeev, tell me three things you learned.” He always kept patients as the primary North Star; that whatever we did, we were thinking, “Is it best for the patient?”
Lightning Round:
Favorite type of music?
1980s alternative
Favorite movie genre?
Comedy
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport:
College football
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
“I Ran,” by a Flock of Seagulls
Faced with an opportunity to advocate for patients, Rajeev Jain, MD, AGAF, is never afraid to speak up. He recently spoke out publicly against a major payer’s new advance notification process for colonoscopy and endoscopy procedures, cautioning it was a glidepath toward far-reaching prior authorization requirements.
UnitedHealthcare plans to collect a larger scope of data for this new policy, “which I fear will disrupt and deny patients’ access to lifesaving care,” Dr. Jain, a gastroenterologist with Texas Digestive Disease Consultants and a member of the American Gastroenterological Association’s (AGA) Prior Authorization Reform Task Force, wrote in an opinion piece in the Dallas Morning News.
Insurance coverage should be fair to the end goal of taking good care of patients, said Dr. Jain. “And if they’re putting processes in place, which are solely to be an impediment to excellent care, then that’s not right.”
Through his extensive participation in AGA panels and other influential groups, Dr. Jain has sought to improve clinical practice and reduce physician burnout. As Director and now Chair of the Board of Directors” of the American Board of Internal Medicine, Dr. Jain participated in conversations to make the maintenance of certification (MOC) process more accessible and less burdensome for doctors.
People spent a lot of time studying for ABIM’s 10-year MOC exam, sometimes even taking a course to help them pass. Now, there’s an option in all specialties to take a 30-question exam every quarter.
On average, it takes someone roughly 2 minutes to answer each question on this short exam. “Per quarter, you’re roughly spending an hour to do that instead of taking a big 10-year exam, where people were spending money and missing work,” said Dr. Jain. This modality enables physicians to meet credentialing requirements “in a way that it meets many of the desires of our practitioners,” he added.
Dr. Jain expounded on his work to advocate for patients and physicians in an interview.
Q: I’d like to discuss your opinion piece on UnitedHealthcare’s advanced notification process. Where does that policy stand now? I’m wondering if your opinion piece led to any changes.
Dr. Jain: There’s not a metric I can use to measure its success. But I will tell you this: I’ve had numerous patients mention to me, “Hey, I saw your article in the Dallas Morning News. That was great.” And that would lead to a conversation.
Q: Why do you think UHC’s policy was a tool for prior authorization?
Dr. Jain: Imagine you go to see a gastroenterologist in clinic, and the GI believes you need a procedure for certain symptoms or abnormal laboratory tests or imaging. It’s not a screening procedure. It’s a diagnostic procedure. Now, the insurance company is going to say, “Well, we can’t schedule that until you do a preauthorization.”
That could take a day. It could take a week. It could take longer. And now, the patient has lost that moment where they can get this settled. It’s not just the schedule for the patient. They’re going to get anesthesia, be it conscious sedation or deeper sedation, and they’re going to need a ride home. They have to coordinate things with family members or friends. Those little logistics add up to a lot of times why patients cancel or don’t show up or don’t follow through, because we couldn’t get it scheduled at that moment.
I feel like we are trying to attack this problem from many different angles, and my opinion piece was one of those tactics. The patients and the rank-and-file gastroenterologists appreciate the AGA being at the forefront of this issue.
Q: Your interests range from colon cancer to Barrett’s esophagus and inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Is there an area of focus you feel passionate about?
Dr. Jain: Through AGA, I was the cochair of the IBD Parenthood Project, which convened subject-matter experts outside of GI, including maternal-fetal medicine, lactation experts, and patients. We came up with a care pathway for women in their reproductive years who have inflammatory bowel disease, including how they should think about family planning and what they should do during pregnancy and then the postpartum. Those kinds of things have really kept me energized. It’s sort of an antidote to burnout.
Q: Who are your mentors?
Dr. Jain: I would say the late Dan Foster, MD, who was the chair of medicine at UT Southwestern, and Mark Feldman, MD, AGAF, who held leadership roles at the Dallas VA Medical Center and then Texas Health Dallas. He retired a few years ago. They both expected physicians to understand the knowledge of how we were taking care of the patient and our professionalism. There’s also my senior partner, Peter Loeb, MD, AGAF, who’s now retired. He had an insatiable appetite for knowledge. Every time I’d come back from a meeting, he’d say, “Rajeev, tell me three things you learned.” He always kept patients as the primary North Star; that whatever we did, we were thinking, “Is it best for the patient?”
Lightning Round:
Favorite type of music?
1980s alternative
Favorite movie genre?
Comedy
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport:
College football
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
“I Ran,” by a Flock of Seagulls
Faced with an opportunity to advocate for patients, Rajeev Jain, MD, AGAF, is never afraid to speak up. He recently spoke out publicly against a major payer’s new advance notification process for colonoscopy and endoscopy procedures, cautioning it was a glidepath toward far-reaching prior authorization requirements.
UnitedHealthcare plans to collect a larger scope of data for this new policy, “which I fear will disrupt and deny patients’ access to lifesaving care,” Dr. Jain, a gastroenterologist with Texas Digestive Disease Consultants and a member of the American Gastroenterological Association’s (AGA) Prior Authorization Reform Task Force, wrote in an opinion piece in the Dallas Morning News.
Insurance coverage should be fair to the end goal of taking good care of patients, said Dr. Jain. “And if they’re putting processes in place, which are solely to be an impediment to excellent care, then that’s not right.”
Through his extensive participation in AGA panels and other influential groups, Dr. Jain has sought to improve clinical practice and reduce physician burnout. As Director and now Chair of the Board of Directors” of the American Board of Internal Medicine, Dr. Jain participated in conversations to make the maintenance of certification (MOC) process more accessible and less burdensome for doctors.
People spent a lot of time studying for ABIM’s 10-year MOC exam, sometimes even taking a course to help them pass. Now, there’s an option in all specialties to take a 30-question exam every quarter.
On average, it takes someone roughly 2 minutes to answer each question on this short exam. “Per quarter, you’re roughly spending an hour to do that instead of taking a big 10-year exam, where people were spending money and missing work,” said Dr. Jain. This modality enables physicians to meet credentialing requirements “in a way that it meets many of the desires of our practitioners,” he added.
Dr. Jain expounded on his work to advocate for patients and physicians in an interview.
Q: I’d like to discuss your opinion piece on UnitedHealthcare’s advanced notification process. Where does that policy stand now? I’m wondering if your opinion piece led to any changes.
Dr. Jain: There’s not a metric I can use to measure its success. But I will tell you this: I’ve had numerous patients mention to me, “Hey, I saw your article in the Dallas Morning News. That was great.” And that would lead to a conversation.
Q: Why do you think UHC’s policy was a tool for prior authorization?
Dr. Jain: Imagine you go to see a gastroenterologist in clinic, and the GI believes you need a procedure for certain symptoms or abnormal laboratory tests or imaging. It’s not a screening procedure. It’s a diagnostic procedure. Now, the insurance company is going to say, “Well, we can’t schedule that until you do a preauthorization.”
That could take a day. It could take a week. It could take longer. And now, the patient has lost that moment where they can get this settled. It’s not just the schedule for the patient. They’re going to get anesthesia, be it conscious sedation or deeper sedation, and they’re going to need a ride home. They have to coordinate things with family members or friends. Those little logistics add up to a lot of times why patients cancel or don’t show up or don’t follow through, because we couldn’t get it scheduled at that moment.
I feel like we are trying to attack this problem from many different angles, and my opinion piece was one of those tactics. The patients and the rank-and-file gastroenterologists appreciate the AGA being at the forefront of this issue.
Q: Your interests range from colon cancer to Barrett’s esophagus and inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Is there an area of focus you feel passionate about?
Dr. Jain: Through AGA, I was the cochair of the IBD Parenthood Project, which convened subject-matter experts outside of GI, including maternal-fetal medicine, lactation experts, and patients. We came up with a care pathway for women in their reproductive years who have inflammatory bowel disease, including how they should think about family planning and what they should do during pregnancy and then the postpartum. Those kinds of things have really kept me energized. It’s sort of an antidote to burnout.
Q: Who are your mentors?
Dr. Jain: I would say the late Dan Foster, MD, who was the chair of medicine at UT Southwestern, and Mark Feldman, MD, AGAF, who held leadership roles at the Dallas VA Medical Center and then Texas Health Dallas. He retired a few years ago. They both expected physicians to understand the knowledge of how we were taking care of the patient and our professionalism. There’s also my senior partner, Peter Loeb, MD, AGAF, who’s now retired. He had an insatiable appetite for knowledge. Every time I’d come back from a meeting, he’d say, “Rajeev, tell me three things you learned.” He always kept patients as the primary North Star; that whatever we did, we were thinking, “Is it best for the patient?”
Lightning Round:
Favorite type of music?
1980s alternative
Favorite movie genre?
Comedy
Cat person or dog person?
Dog
Favorite sport:
College football
What song do you have to sing along with when you hear it?
“I Ran,” by a Flock of Seagulls