Pharmacist Advocates for Early Adoption of Quadruple Therapy in HFrEF Treatment

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SAN DIEGO — An Air Force pharmacist urged colleagues in the military to advocate for the gold standard of quadruple therapy in patients with heart failure with reduced ejection fraction (HFrEF). “When possible, initiate and optimize quadruple therapy before discharge; don’t leave it for a primary care manager (PCM) to handle,” said Maj. Elizabeth Tesch, PharmD, of Maxwell Air Force Base, Montgomery, Ala., in a presentation here at the Joint Federal Pharmacy Seminar. Tesch also cautioned colleagues about the proper use of IV inotropes and vasodilators in congestive heart failure and warned of the dangers of polypharmacy.

“It’s just as important to use medications that provide a mortality benefit in these patients as it is to remove things that are either harmful or lack trial benefit data,” Tesch said. 

In patients with acute heart failure and systolic blood pressure < 90 mmHg, guidelines recommend using both an inotrope and a vasopressor. “There tends to be better data about 2 of them together vs just cranking up a vasoconstrictor, which we tend to sometimes to do when a patient’s blood pressure is bottoming out,” Tesch explained. “But in these patients specifically, that tends to lead to increased afterload, difficulty with cardiac output, and then increased risk of ischemia. So it tends to be better to use both.”

Ideally, Tesch said, patients stabilize within a couple days. In cases of HFrEF, this is when quadruple therapy can enter the picture. 

Quadruple therapy consists of the “4 pillars”: a sodium-glucose co-transporter 2 inhibitor (SGLT2i), a β blocker, a mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist (MRA), and either an angiotensin receptor neprilysin inhibitor (ARNI), an angiotensin‐converting enzyme inhibitor (ACEi) or an angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB). 

Tesch noted that the need for titration varies by drug. β blockers typically will need the most up-titration, often in several steps, followed by ARNIs. MRAs may require only one titration or even not at all, and SGLT2 inhibitors do not require titration. 

“[Clinicians] are most comfortable giving ACE inhibitors, ARBs, and β blockers to patients, she said. But new research suggests there is a 10.3% jump in mortality risk (absolute risk difference) compared to ACEi/ β blocker/ARB therapy. Additionally, a 2022 systematic review linked quadruple therapy to a gain of 5 years of life (ranging from 2.5 to7.5 years) for 70-year-old patients compared to no therapy. 

“I don't know how many times I've had a conversation along the lines of, ‘Hey, can we go ahead and start an SGLT2 on this patient?’ only to hear, ‘We'll give that to the PCM [primary care manager]. That sounds like a PCM thing. You just want to get them out of here, it’s a PCM problem.’”

But quick initiation of treatment is crucial. “We're seeing very real mortality benefit data very quickly in these patients,” Tesch said. 

As for polypharmacy, Tesch highlighted the importance of reducing mediation load when possible. “If they have nothing else wrong, these patients will walk out the door on quadruple therapy and perhaps a diuretic, but they probably have a lot more going on,” she said. “All of us in this room are fully aware of what polypharmacy can do to these patients: increased drug interactions, side effects, higher cost, and decreased patient compliance. This is a problem for the heart failure population that really translates into readmissions and increased mortality. We've got to be able to peel off things that are either harmful or not helping.”

Statins, for example, have questionable benefit in HFrEF without coronary artery disease or hyperlipidemia, she said. Oral iron and vitamin D supplementation also have uncertain benefits in the HFrEF population.

Tesch highlighted a pair of reports – one from 2024 and the other from 2022 – that recommended certain therapies  in heart failure, including the antidepressant citalopram (Celexa), the hypertension/urinary retention drug doxazosin (Cardura), and DPP-4 inhibitors (eg, diabetes/weight-loss drugs such as liraglutide [Saxenda]).

 

Tesch has no disclosures. 

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SAN DIEGO — An Air Force pharmacist urged colleagues in the military to advocate for the gold standard of quadruple therapy in patients with heart failure with reduced ejection fraction (HFrEF). “When possible, initiate and optimize quadruple therapy before discharge; don’t leave it for a primary care manager (PCM) to handle,” said Maj. Elizabeth Tesch, PharmD, of Maxwell Air Force Base, Montgomery, Ala., in a presentation here at the Joint Federal Pharmacy Seminar. Tesch also cautioned colleagues about the proper use of IV inotropes and vasodilators in congestive heart failure and warned of the dangers of polypharmacy.

“It’s just as important to use medications that provide a mortality benefit in these patients as it is to remove things that are either harmful or lack trial benefit data,” Tesch said. 

In patients with acute heart failure and systolic blood pressure < 90 mmHg, guidelines recommend using both an inotrope and a vasopressor. “There tends to be better data about 2 of them together vs just cranking up a vasoconstrictor, which we tend to sometimes to do when a patient’s blood pressure is bottoming out,” Tesch explained. “But in these patients specifically, that tends to lead to increased afterload, difficulty with cardiac output, and then increased risk of ischemia. So it tends to be better to use both.”

Ideally, Tesch said, patients stabilize within a couple days. In cases of HFrEF, this is when quadruple therapy can enter the picture. 

Quadruple therapy consists of the “4 pillars”: a sodium-glucose co-transporter 2 inhibitor (SGLT2i), a β blocker, a mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist (MRA), and either an angiotensin receptor neprilysin inhibitor (ARNI), an angiotensin‐converting enzyme inhibitor (ACEi) or an angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB). 

Tesch noted that the need for titration varies by drug. β blockers typically will need the most up-titration, often in several steps, followed by ARNIs. MRAs may require only one titration or even not at all, and SGLT2 inhibitors do not require titration. 

“[Clinicians] are most comfortable giving ACE inhibitors, ARBs, and β blockers to patients, she said. But new research suggests there is a 10.3% jump in mortality risk (absolute risk difference) compared to ACEi/ β blocker/ARB therapy. Additionally, a 2022 systematic review linked quadruple therapy to a gain of 5 years of life (ranging from 2.5 to7.5 years) for 70-year-old patients compared to no therapy. 

“I don't know how many times I've had a conversation along the lines of, ‘Hey, can we go ahead and start an SGLT2 on this patient?’ only to hear, ‘We'll give that to the PCM [primary care manager]. That sounds like a PCM thing. You just want to get them out of here, it’s a PCM problem.’”

But quick initiation of treatment is crucial. “We're seeing very real mortality benefit data very quickly in these patients,” Tesch said. 

As for polypharmacy, Tesch highlighted the importance of reducing mediation load when possible. “If they have nothing else wrong, these patients will walk out the door on quadruple therapy and perhaps a diuretic, but they probably have a lot more going on,” she said. “All of us in this room are fully aware of what polypharmacy can do to these patients: increased drug interactions, side effects, higher cost, and decreased patient compliance. This is a problem for the heart failure population that really translates into readmissions and increased mortality. We've got to be able to peel off things that are either harmful or not helping.”

Statins, for example, have questionable benefit in HFrEF without coronary artery disease or hyperlipidemia, she said. Oral iron and vitamin D supplementation also have uncertain benefits in the HFrEF population.

Tesch highlighted a pair of reports – one from 2024 and the other from 2022 – that recommended certain therapies  in heart failure, including the antidepressant citalopram (Celexa), the hypertension/urinary retention drug doxazosin (Cardura), and DPP-4 inhibitors (eg, diabetes/weight-loss drugs such as liraglutide [Saxenda]).

 

Tesch has no disclosures. 

SAN DIEGO — An Air Force pharmacist urged colleagues in the military to advocate for the gold standard of quadruple therapy in patients with heart failure with reduced ejection fraction (HFrEF). “When possible, initiate and optimize quadruple therapy before discharge; don’t leave it for a primary care manager (PCM) to handle,” said Maj. Elizabeth Tesch, PharmD, of Maxwell Air Force Base, Montgomery, Ala., in a presentation here at the Joint Federal Pharmacy Seminar. Tesch also cautioned colleagues about the proper use of IV inotropes and vasodilators in congestive heart failure and warned of the dangers of polypharmacy.

“It’s just as important to use medications that provide a mortality benefit in these patients as it is to remove things that are either harmful or lack trial benefit data,” Tesch said. 

In patients with acute heart failure and systolic blood pressure < 90 mmHg, guidelines recommend using both an inotrope and a vasopressor. “There tends to be better data about 2 of them together vs just cranking up a vasoconstrictor, which we tend to sometimes to do when a patient’s blood pressure is bottoming out,” Tesch explained. “But in these patients specifically, that tends to lead to increased afterload, difficulty with cardiac output, and then increased risk of ischemia. So it tends to be better to use both.”

Ideally, Tesch said, patients stabilize within a couple days. In cases of HFrEF, this is when quadruple therapy can enter the picture. 

Quadruple therapy consists of the “4 pillars”: a sodium-glucose co-transporter 2 inhibitor (SGLT2i), a β blocker, a mineralocorticoid receptor antagonist (MRA), and either an angiotensin receptor neprilysin inhibitor (ARNI), an angiotensin‐converting enzyme inhibitor (ACEi) or an angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB). 

Tesch noted that the need for titration varies by drug. β blockers typically will need the most up-titration, often in several steps, followed by ARNIs. MRAs may require only one titration or even not at all, and SGLT2 inhibitors do not require titration. 

“[Clinicians] are most comfortable giving ACE inhibitors, ARBs, and β blockers to patients, she said. But new research suggests there is a 10.3% jump in mortality risk (absolute risk difference) compared to ACEi/ β blocker/ARB therapy. Additionally, a 2022 systematic review linked quadruple therapy to a gain of 5 years of life (ranging from 2.5 to7.5 years) for 70-year-old patients compared to no therapy. 

“I don't know how many times I've had a conversation along the lines of, ‘Hey, can we go ahead and start an SGLT2 on this patient?’ only to hear, ‘We'll give that to the PCM [primary care manager]. That sounds like a PCM thing. You just want to get them out of here, it’s a PCM problem.’”

But quick initiation of treatment is crucial. “We're seeing very real mortality benefit data very quickly in these patients,” Tesch said. 

As for polypharmacy, Tesch highlighted the importance of reducing mediation load when possible. “If they have nothing else wrong, these patients will walk out the door on quadruple therapy and perhaps a diuretic, but they probably have a lot more going on,” she said. “All of us in this room are fully aware of what polypharmacy can do to these patients: increased drug interactions, side effects, higher cost, and decreased patient compliance. This is a problem for the heart failure population that really translates into readmissions and increased mortality. We've got to be able to peel off things that are either harmful or not helping.”

Statins, for example, have questionable benefit in HFrEF without coronary artery disease or hyperlipidemia, she said. Oral iron and vitamin D supplementation also have uncertain benefits in the HFrEF population.

Tesch highlighted a pair of reports – one from 2024 and the other from 2022 – that recommended certain therapies  in heart failure, including the antidepressant citalopram (Celexa), the hypertension/urinary retention drug doxazosin (Cardura), and DPP-4 inhibitors (eg, diabetes/weight-loss drugs such as liraglutide [Saxenda]).

 

Tesch has no disclosures. 

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Contraceptive Care Clinic Focuses on Military Readiness

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SAN DIEGO — Not surprisingly, the contraception clinic at Madigan Army Medical Center near Tacoma, Wash., is popular among female soldiers seeking to avoid pregnancy. However, about half of the patients drop by for other reasons, the military pharmacist who runs the program told colleagues here at the Joint Federal Pharmacy Seminar.
“They come to suppress menstruation, to get help with pain, to get help with PCOS [polycystic ovary syndrome] symptoms. They're coming for a wide range of indications that we use contraception to treat,” said Sarah Abel, PharmD, a clinical pharmacist. 

Regardless of the reason, Abel emphasized that contraceptives can significantly impact the ability of female soldiers to do their jobs.  “If you have heavy periods and can't make it in work, or you have endometriosis and  requiring a lot of doctor's appointments, or you're deployed and you get pregnant, these are all situations where contraceptive care matters,” she said. Rates of unintended pregnancy are higher in servicewomen than in the general population.
Abel, who opened the medical center’s contraceptive clinic about 10 years ago, stressed that it’s crucial to military readiness considering that the percentage of women in the American military is approaching 20%. 

Thanks to a 2022 edict, military hospitals and clinics are required to offer walk-in contraceptive services with same-day access, no requirements for appointments or referrals. An announcement about the mandate noted that these contraceptive services, such as preventing unplanned pregnancy and decreasing menstrual periods, “support the overall well-being of the force and optimize personal warrior readiness.”

As Abel noted, 29 states and Washington D.C. allow pharmacists to prescribe contraception to outpatients, although the requirements vary. “Can we start practicing at the top of our license and start prescribing in the outpatient setting? Absolutely we should,” she said. “Pharmacists have a very unique opportunity to be a part of this.”

Abel also shared that setting up a contraceptive program requires patience and education. “I cannot tell you how many women have come to me who don't know the different names of their body parts, women who've had two babies that don't understand how their body works. So, I constantly find myself taking extra time to do general sexual education,” she said.

There are many lessons to impart to patients about sexual health. For example, birth control drugs and devices do not prevent transmission of sexually transmitted infections (STIs). “So I have bowls of condoms literally everywhere because condoms are the only thing that protects against STIs,” Abel said.

In terms of devices, “we have diaphragms available and cervical caps,” she said. “The Caya diaphragm is a TRICARE-covered benefit. It’s a small purple diaphragm, one size fits most. We can prescribe it, and it is good for 2 years. Unfortunately, spermicide, which you have to use with these things, is not a TRICARE-covered benefit.”
Hormonal contraceptives are also available, with Abel recommending the continuous monophasic type for most women. “Please don't tell women they have to have their periods. They don't,” she said. “What I'm trying to do is give a woman some stability in her hormones. She can know and expect what she's going to feel like. She's not going to wake up and say, ‘Oh God, today's the day. I'm going to be like this for a week.’”

Patches are another option, and a flurry of patients have been asking about them because of recent TikTok videos promoting their use. “We have the Xulane patch, our bread and butter. They wear it on their shoulder, their hip, their butt, or their back. They leave it in place for a week at a time. And every week, they will change that patch. I usually have to walk patients through a whole month to help them understand how that works.”

Another option, the NuvaRing, is notable because it’s linked to low amounts of breakthrough bleeding Abel noted. An extended form is now available that doesn’t need to be removed during menstrual periods.

Medroxyprogesterone injections, which are linked to bone loss, and subdermal implants, which may be less effective in women over 130% of their ideal weight are also available, she said. 

Finally, IUDs are an option, although when they fail, they’re linked to ectopic pregnancies.   

 

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SAN DIEGO — Not surprisingly, the contraception clinic at Madigan Army Medical Center near Tacoma, Wash., is popular among female soldiers seeking to avoid pregnancy. However, about half of the patients drop by for other reasons, the military pharmacist who runs the program told colleagues here at the Joint Federal Pharmacy Seminar.
“They come to suppress menstruation, to get help with pain, to get help with PCOS [polycystic ovary syndrome] symptoms. They're coming for a wide range of indications that we use contraception to treat,” said Sarah Abel, PharmD, a clinical pharmacist. 

Regardless of the reason, Abel emphasized that contraceptives can significantly impact the ability of female soldiers to do their jobs.  “If you have heavy periods and can't make it in work, or you have endometriosis and  requiring a lot of doctor's appointments, or you're deployed and you get pregnant, these are all situations where contraceptive care matters,” she said. Rates of unintended pregnancy are higher in servicewomen than in the general population.
Abel, who opened the medical center’s contraceptive clinic about 10 years ago, stressed that it’s crucial to military readiness considering that the percentage of women in the American military is approaching 20%. 

Thanks to a 2022 edict, military hospitals and clinics are required to offer walk-in contraceptive services with same-day access, no requirements for appointments or referrals. An announcement about the mandate noted that these contraceptive services, such as preventing unplanned pregnancy and decreasing menstrual periods, “support the overall well-being of the force and optimize personal warrior readiness.”

As Abel noted, 29 states and Washington D.C. allow pharmacists to prescribe contraception to outpatients, although the requirements vary. “Can we start practicing at the top of our license and start prescribing in the outpatient setting? Absolutely we should,” she said. “Pharmacists have a very unique opportunity to be a part of this.”

Abel also shared that setting up a contraceptive program requires patience and education. “I cannot tell you how many women have come to me who don't know the different names of their body parts, women who've had two babies that don't understand how their body works. So, I constantly find myself taking extra time to do general sexual education,” she said.

There are many lessons to impart to patients about sexual health. For example, birth control drugs and devices do not prevent transmission of sexually transmitted infections (STIs). “So I have bowls of condoms literally everywhere because condoms are the only thing that protects against STIs,” Abel said.

In terms of devices, “we have diaphragms available and cervical caps,” she said. “The Caya diaphragm is a TRICARE-covered benefit. It’s a small purple diaphragm, one size fits most. We can prescribe it, and it is good for 2 years. Unfortunately, spermicide, which you have to use with these things, is not a TRICARE-covered benefit.”
Hormonal contraceptives are also available, with Abel recommending the continuous monophasic type for most women. “Please don't tell women they have to have their periods. They don't,” she said. “What I'm trying to do is give a woman some stability in her hormones. She can know and expect what she's going to feel like. She's not going to wake up and say, ‘Oh God, today's the day. I'm going to be like this for a week.’”

Patches are another option, and a flurry of patients have been asking about them because of recent TikTok videos promoting their use. “We have the Xulane patch, our bread and butter. They wear it on their shoulder, their hip, their butt, or their back. They leave it in place for a week at a time. And every week, they will change that patch. I usually have to walk patients through a whole month to help them understand how that works.”

Another option, the NuvaRing, is notable because it’s linked to low amounts of breakthrough bleeding Abel noted. An extended form is now available that doesn’t need to be removed during menstrual periods.

Medroxyprogesterone injections, which are linked to bone loss, and subdermal implants, which may be less effective in women over 130% of their ideal weight are also available, she said. 

Finally, IUDs are an option, although when they fail, they’re linked to ectopic pregnancies.   

 

Abel has no disclosures.  

SAN DIEGO — Not surprisingly, the contraception clinic at Madigan Army Medical Center near Tacoma, Wash., is popular among female soldiers seeking to avoid pregnancy. However, about half of the patients drop by for other reasons, the military pharmacist who runs the program told colleagues here at the Joint Federal Pharmacy Seminar.
“They come to suppress menstruation, to get help with pain, to get help with PCOS [polycystic ovary syndrome] symptoms. They're coming for a wide range of indications that we use contraception to treat,” said Sarah Abel, PharmD, a clinical pharmacist. 

Regardless of the reason, Abel emphasized that contraceptives can significantly impact the ability of female soldiers to do their jobs.  “If you have heavy periods and can't make it in work, or you have endometriosis and  requiring a lot of doctor's appointments, or you're deployed and you get pregnant, these are all situations where contraceptive care matters,” she said. Rates of unintended pregnancy are higher in servicewomen than in the general population.
Abel, who opened the medical center’s contraceptive clinic about 10 years ago, stressed that it’s crucial to military readiness considering that the percentage of women in the American military is approaching 20%. 

Thanks to a 2022 edict, military hospitals and clinics are required to offer walk-in contraceptive services with same-day access, no requirements for appointments or referrals. An announcement about the mandate noted that these contraceptive services, such as preventing unplanned pregnancy and decreasing menstrual periods, “support the overall well-being of the force and optimize personal warrior readiness.”

As Abel noted, 29 states and Washington D.C. allow pharmacists to prescribe contraception to outpatients, although the requirements vary. “Can we start practicing at the top of our license and start prescribing in the outpatient setting? Absolutely we should,” she said. “Pharmacists have a very unique opportunity to be a part of this.”

Abel also shared that setting up a contraceptive program requires patience and education. “I cannot tell you how many women have come to me who don't know the different names of their body parts, women who've had two babies that don't understand how their body works. So, I constantly find myself taking extra time to do general sexual education,” she said.

There are many lessons to impart to patients about sexual health. For example, birth control drugs and devices do not prevent transmission of sexually transmitted infections (STIs). “So I have bowls of condoms literally everywhere because condoms are the only thing that protects against STIs,” Abel said.

In terms of devices, “we have diaphragms available and cervical caps,” she said. “The Caya diaphragm is a TRICARE-covered benefit. It’s a small purple diaphragm, one size fits most. We can prescribe it, and it is good for 2 years. Unfortunately, spermicide, which you have to use with these things, is not a TRICARE-covered benefit.”
Hormonal contraceptives are also available, with Abel recommending the continuous monophasic type for most women. “Please don't tell women they have to have their periods. They don't,” she said. “What I'm trying to do is give a woman some stability in her hormones. She can know and expect what she's going to feel like. She's not going to wake up and say, ‘Oh God, today's the day. I'm going to be like this for a week.’”

Patches are another option, and a flurry of patients have been asking about them because of recent TikTok videos promoting their use. “We have the Xulane patch, our bread and butter. They wear it on their shoulder, their hip, their butt, or their back. They leave it in place for a week at a time. And every week, they will change that patch. I usually have to walk patients through a whole month to help them understand how that works.”

Another option, the NuvaRing, is notable because it’s linked to low amounts of breakthrough bleeding Abel noted. An extended form is now available that doesn’t need to be removed during menstrual periods.

Medroxyprogesterone injections, which are linked to bone loss, and subdermal implants, which may be less effective in women over 130% of their ideal weight are also available, she said. 

Finally, IUDs are an option, although when they fail, they’re linked to ectopic pregnancies.   

 

Abel has no disclosures.  

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Giving the Smallest GI Transplant Patients a New Lease On Life

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The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.

As medical director of intestinal transplant at Stanford Children’s Health, Dr. Zhang sees children with critical illnesses like intestinal failure or chronic liver disease. Everyday life for them is a challenge.

 

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Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.

Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.

In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.

She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
 

Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI? 

I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.

And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills. 
 

Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation? 

I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.

Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
 

Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work? 

Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.

Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014. 
 

Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?

Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant. 

Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share? 

One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming. 

He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal. 

He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him. 
 

Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research? 

I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.

I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting. 
 

Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons? 

My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.

 

 

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The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.

As medical director of intestinal transplant at Stanford Children’s Health, Dr. Zhang sees children with critical illnesses like intestinal failure or chronic liver disease. Everyday life for them is a challenge.

 

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Dr. Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang

Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.

Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.

In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.

She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
 

Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI? 

I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.

And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills. 
 

Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation? 

I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.

Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
 

Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work? 

Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.

Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014. 
 

Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?

Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant. 

Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share? 

One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming. 

He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal. 

He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him. 
 

Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research? 

I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.

I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting. 
 

Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons? 

My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.

 

 

Lightning Round

Texting or talking?

Huge texter

Favorite junk food?

French fries



Cat or dog person?

Dog

Favorite ice cream?

Strawberry

If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist

Best place you’ve traveled to?

Thailand

Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?

Too many

Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?

New York City

Favorite sport?

Tennis

Optimist or pessimist?

Optimist

The best part about working with kids is that “I get to laugh every day,” said Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang, MD, clinical assistant professor for pediatrics–gastroenterology and hepatology at Stanford Medicine in California.

As medical director of intestinal transplant at Stanford Children’s Health, Dr. Zhang sees children with critical illnesses like intestinal failure or chronic liver disease. Everyday life for them is a challenge.

 

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Dr. Ke-You (Yoyo) Zhang

Dealing with sick children is difficult. “But I think the difference between pediatrics and adults is despite how hard things get, children are the single most resilient people you’re ever going to meet,” she said.

Kids don’t always know they’re sick and they don’t act sick, even when they are. “Every day, I literally get on the floor, I get to play, I get to run around. And truly, I have fun every single day. I get excited to go to work. And I think that’s what makes work not feel like work,” said Dr. Zhang.

In an interview, she discussed the satisfaction of following patients throughout their care continuum and her research to reduce the likelihood of transplant rejection.

She also shared an inspirational story of one young patient who spent his life tied to an IV, and how a transplant exposed him to the normal joys of life, like swimming, going to camp and getting on a plane for the first time.
 

Q: Why did you choose this subspecialty of pediatric GI? 

I think it’s the best subspecialty because I think it combines a lot of the things that I enjoy, which is long-term continuity of care. It’s about growing up with your patients and seeing them through all the various stages of their life, often meeting patients when they’re babies. I get pictures of high school graduations and life milestones and even see some of my patients have families of their own. Becoming a part of their family is very meaningful to me. I also like complexity and acuity, and gastroenterology and hepatology provide those things.

And then lastly, it’s great to be able to exercise procedural skills and constantly learn new procedural skills. 
 

Q: How did you become interested in the field of pediatric intestinal and liver transplantation? 

I did all my training here at Stanford. We have one of the largest pediatric transplant centers and we also have a very large intestinal rehabilitation population.

Coming through residency and fellowship, I had a lot of exposure to transplant and intestinal failure, intestinal rehabilitation. I really liked the longitudinal relationship I got to form with my patients. Sometimes they’re in the neonatal ICU, where you’re meeting them in their very first days of life. You follow them through their chronic illness, through transplant and after transplant for many years. You become not just their GI, but the center of their care.
 

Q: What challenges are unique to this type of transplant work? 

Pediatric intestinal failure and intestinal transplant represents an incredibly small subset of children. Oftentimes, they do not get the resources and recognition on a national policy level or even at the hospital level that other gastrointestinal diseases receive. What’s difficult is they are such a small subset but their complexity and their needs are probably in the highest percentile. So that’s a really challenging combination to start with. And there’s only a few centers that specialize in doing intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation for children in the country.

Developing expertise has been slow. But I think in the last decade or so, our understanding and success with intestinal rehabilitation and intestinal transplantation has really improved, especially at large centers like Stanford. We’ve had a lot of success stories and have not had any graft loss since 2014. 
 

Q: Are these transplants hard to acquire?

Yes, especially when you’re transplanting not just the intestines but the liver as well. You’re waiting for two organs, not just one organ. And on top of that, you’re waiting for an appropriately sized donor; usually a child who’s around the same size or same age who’s passed away. Those organs would have to be a good match. Children can wait multiple years for a transplant. 

Q: Is there a success story you’d like to share? 

One patient I met in the neonatal ICU had congenital short bowel syndrome. He was born with hardly any intestines. He developed complications of being on long-term intravenous nutrition, which included recurrent central line infections and liver disease. He was never able to eat because he really didn’t have a digestive system that could adequately absorb anything. He had a central line in one of his large veins, so he couldn’t go swimming. 

He had to have special adaptive wear to even shower or bathe and couldn’t travel. It’s these types of patients that benefit so much from transplant. Putting any kid through transplant is a massive undertaking and it certainly has risks. But he underwent a successful transplant at the age of 8—not just an intestinal transplant, but a multi-visceral transplant of the liver, intestine, and pancreas. He’s 9 years old now, and no longer needs intravenous nutrition. He ate by mouth for the very first time after transplant. He’s trying all sorts of new foods and he was able to go to a special transplant camp for children. Getting on a plane to Los Angeles, which is where our transplant camp is, was a huge deal. 

He was able to swim in the lake. He’s never been able to do that. And he wants to start doing sports this fall. This was really a life-changing story for him. 
 

Q: What advancements lie ahead for this field of work? Have you work on any notable research? 

I think our understanding of transplant immunology has really progressed, especially recently. That’s what part of my research is about—using novel therapies to modulate the immune system of pediatric transplant recipients. The No. 1 complication that occurs after intestinal transplant is rejection because obviously you’re implanting somebody else’s organs into a patient.

I am involved in a clinical trial that’s looking at the use of extracellular vesicles that are isolated from hematopoietic stem cells. These vesicles contain various growth factors, anti-inflammatory proteins and tissue repair factors that we are infusing into intestinal transplant patients with the aim to repair the intestinal tissue patients are rejecting. 
 

Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons? 

My husband and I have an almost 2-year-old little girl. She keeps us busy and I spend my afternoons chasing after a crazy toddler.

 

 

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Texting or talking?

Huge texter

Favorite junk food?

French fries



Cat or dog person?

Dog

Favorite ice cream?

Strawberry

If you weren’t a gastroenterologist, what would you be?Florist

Best place you’ve traveled to?

Thailand

Number of cups of coffee you drink per day?

Too many

Favorite city in the US besides the one you live in?

New York City

Favorite sport?

Tennis

Optimist or pessimist?

Optimist

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Whether it’s playing her piano, working on a sewing project or performing a colonoscopy, Stephanie D. Pointer, MD, enjoys working with her hands. She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.

One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.

 

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Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”

In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
 

Q: Why did you choose GI?

I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.

During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures. 
 

Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?

There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.

But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty. 
 

 

 

Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?

I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.

That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly. 
 

Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?

Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.

The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.

It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
 

Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?

I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.

Lightning Round

Texting or talking?

Talking

Favorite junk food?

Chocolate chip cookies

Cat or dog person?

Cat

Favorite vacation?

Hawaii

How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?

I don’t drink coffee

Favorite ice cream?

Butter pecan

Favorite sport?

I don’t watch sports

Optimist or pessimist?

Optimist

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Whether it’s playing her piano, working on a sewing project or performing a colonoscopy, Stephanie D. Pointer, MD, enjoys working with her hands. She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.

One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.

 

Dr. Pointer
Dr. Stephanie D. Pointer

Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”

In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
 

Q: Why did you choose GI?

I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.

During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures. 
 

Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?

There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.

But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty. 
 

 

 

Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?

I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.

That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly. 
 

Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?

Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.

The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.

It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
 

Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?

I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.

Lightning Round

Texting or talking?

Talking

Favorite junk food?

Chocolate chip cookies

Cat or dog person?

Cat

Favorite vacation?

Hawaii

How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?

I don’t drink coffee

Favorite ice cream?

Butter pecan

Favorite sport?

I don’t watch sports

Optimist or pessimist?

Optimist

Whether it’s playing her piano, working on a sewing project or performing a colonoscopy, Stephanie D. Pointer, MD, enjoys working with her hands. She also relishes opportunities to think, to analyze, and solve problems for her patients.

One of her chief interests is inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). It’s reassuring to focus on a field of work “where I know exactly what’s causing the issue, and I can select a therapeutic approach (medication and lifestyle changes) that help a patient achieve remission,” said Dr. Pointer, co-owner and managing partner of Digestive and Liver Health Specialists in Hendersonville, Tenn. She’s also the medical director and a principal investigator of Quality Medical Research in Nashville, and currently serves as chair of the AGA Trainee and Early Career Committee.

 

Dr. Pointer
Dr. Stephanie D. Pointer

Starting her own practice has been just as challenging and rewarding as going through medical school. Medical training does not prepare you for starting your own practice, Dr. Pointer said, so she and her business partner have had to learn as they go. “But I think we’ve done very well. We’ve taken the ups and downs in stride.”

In an interview, Dr. Pointer spoke more about her work in IBD and the ways in which she’s given back to the community through music and mentoring.
 

Q: Why did you choose GI?

I knew from a very young age that I was going to be a physician. I had always been interested in science. When I got into medical school and became exposed to the different areas, I really liked the cognitive skills where you had to think through a problem or an issue. But I also liked the procedural things as well.

During my internal medicine residency training, I felt that I had a knack for it. As I was looking at different options, I decided on gastroenterology because it combined both cognitive thinking through issues, but also taking it to the next step and intervening through procedures. 
 

Q: During fellowship, your focus was inflammatory bowel disease. What drew your interest to this condition?

There are a lot of different areas within gastroenterology that one can subspecialize in, as we see the full gamut of gastrointestinal and hepatic disorders. But treating some conditions, like functional disorders, means taking more of a ‘trial and error’ approach, and you may not always get the patient a hundred percent better. That’s not to say that we can’t improve a patient’s quality of life, but it’s not always a guarantee.

But inflammatory bowel disease is a little bit different. Because I can point to an exact spot in the intestines that’s causing the problem, it’s very fulfilling for me as a physician to take a patient who is having 10-12 bloody bowel movements a day, to normal form stools and no abdominal pain. They’re able to gain weight and go on about their lives and about their day. So that was why I picked inflammatory bowel disease as my subspecialty. 
 

 

 

Q: Tell me about the gastroenterology elective you developed for family medicine residents and undergraduate students. What’s the status of the program now?

I’ve always been interested in teaching and giving back to the next generations. I feel like I had great mentor opportunities and people who helped me along the way. In my previous hospital position, I was able to work with the family medicine department and create an elective through which residents and even undergraduate students could come and shadow and work with me in the clinic and see me performing procedures.

That elective ended once I left that position, at least as far as I’m aware. But in the private practice that I co-own now, we have numerous shadowing opportunities. I was able to give a lecture at Middle Tennessee State University for some students. And through that lecture, many students have reached out to me to shadow. I have allowed them to come shadow and do clinic work as a medical assistant and watch me perform procedures. I have multiple students working with me weekly. 
 

Q: Years ago, you founded the non-profit Enchanted Fingers Piano Lessons, which gave free piano lessons to underserved youth. What was that experience like?

Piano was one of my first loves. In some parallel universe, there’s a Dr. Pointer who is a classical, concert pianist. I started taking piano lessons when I was in early middle school, and I took to it very quickly. I was able to excel. I just loved it. I enjoyed practicing and I still play.

The impetus for starting Enchanted Fingers Piano lessons was because I wanted to give back again to the community. I came from an underserved community. Oftentimes children and young adults in those communities don’t get exposed to extracurricular activities and they don’t even know what they could potentially have a passion for. And I definitely had a passion for piano. I partnered with a church organization and they allowed me to use their church to host these piano lessons, and it was a phenomenal and rewarding experience. I would definitely like to start it up again one day in the future. It was an amazing experience.

It’s actually how I met my husband. He was one of the young adult students who signed up to take lessons. We both still enjoy playing the piano together.
 

Q: When you’re not being a GI, how do you spend your free weekend afternoons?

I’m a creative at heart. I really enjoy sewing and I’m working on a few sewing projects. I just got a serger. It is a machine that helps you finish a seam. It can also be used to sew entire garments. That has been fun, learning how to thread that machine. When I’m not doing that or just relaxing with my family, I do enjoy curling up with a good book. Stephen King is one of my favorite authors.

Lightning Round

Texting or talking?

Talking

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Chocolate chip cookies

Cat or dog person?

Cat

Favorite vacation?

Hawaii

How many cups of coffee do you drink per day?

I don’t drink coffee

Favorite ice cream?

Butter pecan

Favorite sport?

I don’t watch sports

Optimist or pessimist?

Optimist

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In a move that acknowledges the gauntlet the US health system poses for people facing serious and fatal illnesses, Medicare will pay for a new class of workers to help patients manage treatments for conditions like cancer and heart failure.

The 2024 Medicare physician fee schedule includes new billing codes, including G0023, to pay for 60 minutes a month of care coordination by certified or trained auxiliary personnel working under the direction of a clinician.

A diagnosis of cancer or another serious illness takes a toll beyond the physical effects of the disease. Patients often scramble to make adjustments in family and work schedules to manage treatment, said Samyukta Mullangi, MD, MBA, medical director of oncology at Thyme Care, a Nashville, Tennessee–based firm that provides navigation and coordination services to oncology practices and insurers.

 

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“It just really does create a bit of a pressure cooker for patients,” Dr. Mullangi told this news organization.

Medicare has for many years paid for medical professionals to help patients cope with the complexities of disease, such as chronic care management (CCM) provided by physicians, nurses, and physician assistants.

The new principal illness navigation (PIN) payments are intended to pay for work that to date typically has been done by people without medical degrees, including those involved in peer support networks and community health programs. The US Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services(CMS) expects these navigators will undergo training and work under the supervision of clinicians.

The new navigators may coordinate care transitions between medical settings, follow up with patients after emergency department (ED) visits, or communicate with skilled nursing facilities regarding the psychosocial needs and functional deficits of a patient, among other functions.

CMS expects the new navigators may:

  • Conduct assessments to understand a patient’s life story, strengths, needs, goals, preferences, and desired outcomes, including understanding cultural and linguistic factors.
  • Provide support to accomplish the clinician’s treatment plan.
  • Coordinate the receipt of needed services from healthcare facilities, home- and community-based service providers, and caregivers.

Peers as Navigators

The new navigators can be former patients who have undergone similar treatments for serious diseases, CMS said. This approach sets the new program apart from other care management services Medicare already covers, program officials wrote in the 2024 physician fee schedule.

“For some conditions, patients are best able to engage with the healthcare system and access care if they have assistance from a single, dedicated individual who has ‘lived experience,’ ” according to the rule.

The agency has taken a broad initial approach in defining what kinds of illnesses a patient may have to qualify for services. Patients must have a serious condition that is expected to last at least 3 months, such as cancer, heart failure, or substance use disorder.

But those without a definitive diagnosis may also qualify to receive navigator services.

In the rule, CMS cited a case in which a CT scan identified a suspicious mass in a patient’s colon. A clinician might decide this person would benefit from navigation services due to the potential risks for an undiagnosed illness.

“Regardless of the definitive diagnosis of the mass, presence of a colonic mass for that patient may be a serious high-risk condition that could, for example, cause obstruction and lead the patient to present to the emergency department, as well as be potentially indicative of an underlying life-threatening illness such as colon cancer,” CMS wrote in the rule.

Navigators often start their work when cancer patients are screened and guide them through initial diagnosis, potential surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy, said Sharon Gentry, MSN, RN, a former nurse navigator who is now the editor in chief of the Journal of the Academy of Oncology Nurse & Patient Navigators.

The navigators are meant to be a trusted and continual presence for patients, who otherwise might be left to start anew in finding help at each phase of care.

The navigators “see the whole picture. They see the whole journey the patient takes, from pre-diagnosis all the way through diagnosis care out through survival,” Ms. Gentry said.

Journal of Oncology Navigation &amp; Survivorship
Sharon Gentry



Gaining a special Medicare payment for these kinds of services will elevate this work, she said.

Many newer drugs can target specific mechanisms and proteins of cancer. Often, oncology treatment involves testing to find out if mutations are allowing the cancer cells to evade a patient’s immune system.

Checking these biomarkers takes time, however. Patients sometimes become frustrated because they are anxious to begin treatment. Patients may receive inaccurate information from friends or family who went through treatment previously. Navigators can provide knowledge on the current state of care for a patient’s disease, helping them better manage anxieties.

“You have to explain to them that things have changed since the guy you drink coffee with was diagnosed with cancer, and there may be a drug that could target that,” Ms. Gentry said.
 

 

 

Potential Challenges

Initial uptake of the new PIN codes may be slow going, however, as clinicians and health systems may already use well-established codes. These include CCM and principal care management services, which may pay higher rates, Mullangi said.

“There might be sensitivity around not wanting to cannibalize existing programs with a new program,” Dr. Mullangi said.

In addition, many patients will have a copay for the services of principal illness navigators, Dr. Mullangi said.

While many patients have additional insurance that would cover the service, not all do. People with traditional Medicare coverage can sometimes pay 20% of the cost of some medical services.

“I think that may give patients pause, particularly if they’re already feeling the financial burden of a cancer treatment journey,” Dr. Mullangi said.

Pay rates for PIN services involve calculations of regional price differences, which are posted publicly by CMS, and potential added fees for services provided by hospital-affiliated organizations.

Consider payments for code G0023, covering 60 minutes of principal navigation services provided in a single month.

A set reimbursement for patients cared for in independent medical practices exists, with variation for local costs. Medicare’s non-facility price for G0023 would be $102.41 in some parts of Silicon Valley in California, including San Jose. In Arkansas, where costs are lower, reimbursement would be $73.14 for this same service.

Patients who get services covered by code G0023 in independent medical practices would have monthly copays of about $15-$20, depending on where they live.

The tab for patients tends to be higher for these same services if delivered through a medical practice owned by a hospital, as this would trigger the addition of facility fees to the payments made to cover the services. Facility fees are difficult for the public to ascertain before getting a treatment or service.

Dr. Mullangi and Ms. Gentry reported no relevant financial disclosures outside of their employers.
 

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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In a move that acknowledges the gauntlet the US health system poses for people facing serious and fatal illnesses, Medicare will pay for a new class of workers to help patients manage treatments for conditions like cancer and heart failure.

The 2024 Medicare physician fee schedule includes new billing codes, including G0023, to pay for 60 minutes a month of care coordination by certified or trained auxiliary personnel working under the direction of a clinician.

A diagnosis of cancer or another serious illness takes a toll beyond the physical effects of the disease. Patients often scramble to make adjustments in family and work schedules to manage treatment, said Samyukta Mullangi, MD, MBA, medical director of oncology at Thyme Care, a Nashville, Tennessee–based firm that provides navigation and coordination services to oncology practices and insurers.

 

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“It just really does create a bit of a pressure cooker for patients,” Dr. Mullangi told this news organization.

Medicare has for many years paid for medical professionals to help patients cope with the complexities of disease, such as chronic care management (CCM) provided by physicians, nurses, and physician assistants.

The new principal illness navigation (PIN) payments are intended to pay for work that to date typically has been done by people without medical degrees, including those involved in peer support networks and community health programs. The US Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services(CMS) expects these navigators will undergo training and work under the supervision of clinicians.

The new navigators may coordinate care transitions between medical settings, follow up with patients after emergency department (ED) visits, or communicate with skilled nursing facilities regarding the psychosocial needs and functional deficits of a patient, among other functions.

CMS expects the new navigators may:

  • Conduct assessments to understand a patient’s life story, strengths, needs, goals, preferences, and desired outcomes, including understanding cultural and linguistic factors.
  • Provide support to accomplish the clinician’s treatment plan.
  • Coordinate the receipt of needed services from healthcare facilities, home- and community-based service providers, and caregivers.

Peers as Navigators

The new navigators can be former patients who have undergone similar treatments for serious diseases, CMS said. This approach sets the new program apart from other care management services Medicare already covers, program officials wrote in the 2024 physician fee schedule.

“For some conditions, patients are best able to engage with the healthcare system and access care if they have assistance from a single, dedicated individual who has ‘lived experience,’ ” according to the rule.

The agency has taken a broad initial approach in defining what kinds of illnesses a patient may have to qualify for services. Patients must have a serious condition that is expected to last at least 3 months, such as cancer, heart failure, or substance use disorder.

But those without a definitive diagnosis may also qualify to receive navigator services.

In the rule, CMS cited a case in which a CT scan identified a suspicious mass in a patient’s colon. A clinician might decide this person would benefit from navigation services due to the potential risks for an undiagnosed illness.

“Regardless of the definitive diagnosis of the mass, presence of a colonic mass for that patient may be a serious high-risk condition that could, for example, cause obstruction and lead the patient to present to the emergency department, as well as be potentially indicative of an underlying life-threatening illness such as colon cancer,” CMS wrote in the rule.

Navigators often start their work when cancer patients are screened and guide them through initial diagnosis, potential surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy, said Sharon Gentry, MSN, RN, a former nurse navigator who is now the editor in chief of the Journal of the Academy of Oncology Nurse & Patient Navigators.

The navigators are meant to be a trusted and continual presence for patients, who otherwise might be left to start anew in finding help at each phase of care.

The navigators “see the whole picture. They see the whole journey the patient takes, from pre-diagnosis all the way through diagnosis care out through survival,” Ms. Gentry said.

Journal of Oncology Navigation &amp; Survivorship
Sharon Gentry



Gaining a special Medicare payment for these kinds of services will elevate this work, she said.

Many newer drugs can target specific mechanisms and proteins of cancer. Often, oncology treatment involves testing to find out if mutations are allowing the cancer cells to evade a patient’s immune system.

Checking these biomarkers takes time, however. Patients sometimes become frustrated because they are anxious to begin treatment. Patients may receive inaccurate information from friends or family who went through treatment previously. Navigators can provide knowledge on the current state of care for a patient’s disease, helping them better manage anxieties.

“You have to explain to them that things have changed since the guy you drink coffee with was diagnosed with cancer, and there may be a drug that could target that,” Ms. Gentry said.
 

 

 

Potential Challenges

Initial uptake of the new PIN codes may be slow going, however, as clinicians and health systems may already use well-established codes. These include CCM and principal care management services, which may pay higher rates, Mullangi said.

“There might be sensitivity around not wanting to cannibalize existing programs with a new program,” Dr. Mullangi said.

In addition, many patients will have a copay for the services of principal illness navigators, Dr. Mullangi said.

While many patients have additional insurance that would cover the service, not all do. People with traditional Medicare coverage can sometimes pay 20% of the cost of some medical services.

“I think that may give patients pause, particularly if they’re already feeling the financial burden of a cancer treatment journey,” Dr. Mullangi said.

Pay rates for PIN services involve calculations of regional price differences, which are posted publicly by CMS, and potential added fees for services provided by hospital-affiliated organizations.

Consider payments for code G0023, covering 60 minutes of principal navigation services provided in a single month.

A set reimbursement for patients cared for in independent medical practices exists, with variation for local costs. Medicare’s non-facility price for G0023 would be $102.41 in some parts of Silicon Valley in California, including San Jose. In Arkansas, where costs are lower, reimbursement would be $73.14 for this same service.

Patients who get services covered by code G0023 in independent medical practices would have monthly copays of about $15-$20, depending on where they live.

The tab for patients tends to be higher for these same services if delivered through a medical practice owned by a hospital, as this would trigger the addition of facility fees to the payments made to cover the services. Facility fees are difficult for the public to ascertain before getting a treatment or service.

Dr. Mullangi and Ms. Gentry reported no relevant financial disclosures outside of their employers.
 

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

 

In a move that acknowledges the gauntlet the US health system poses for people facing serious and fatal illnesses, Medicare will pay for a new class of workers to help patients manage treatments for conditions like cancer and heart failure.

The 2024 Medicare physician fee schedule includes new billing codes, including G0023, to pay for 60 minutes a month of care coordination by certified or trained auxiliary personnel working under the direction of a clinician.

A diagnosis of cancer or another serious illness takes a toll beyond the physical effects of the disease. Patients often scramble to make adjustments in family and work schedules to manage treatment, said Samyukta Mullangi, MD, MBA, medical director of oncology at Thyme Care, a Nashville, Tennessee–based firm that provides navigation and coordination services to oncology practices and insurers.

 

Thyme Care
Dr. Samyukta Mullangi

“It just really does create a bit of a pressure cooker for patients,” Dr. Mullangi told this news organization.

Medicare has for many years paid for medical professionals to help patients cope with the complexities of disease, such as chronic care management (CCM) provided by physicians, nurses, and physician assistants.

The new principal illness navigation (PIN) payments are intended to pay for work that to date typically has been done by people without medical degrees, including those involved in peer support networks and community health programs. The US Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services(CMS) expects these navigators will undergo training and work under the supervision of clinicians.

The new navigators may coordinate care transitions between medical settings, follow up with patients after emergency department (ED) visits, or communicate with skilled nursing facilities regarding the psychosocial needs and functional deficits of a patient, among other functions.

CMS expects the new navigators may:

  • Conduct assessments to understand a patient’s life story, strengths, needs, goals, preferences, and desired outcomes, including understanding cultural and linguistic factors.
  • Provide support to accomplish the clinician’s treatment plan.
  • Coordinate the receipt of needed services from healthcare facilities, home- and community-based service providers, and caregivers.

Peers as Navigators

The new navigators can be former patients who have undergone similar treatments for serious diseases, CMS said. This approach sets the new program apart from other care management services Medicare already covers, program officials wrote in the 2024 physician fee schedule.

“For some conditions, patients are best able to engage with the healthcare system and access care if they have assistance from a single, dedicated individual who has ‘lived experience,’ ” according to the rule.

The agency has taken a broad initial approach in defining what kinds of illnesses a patient may have to qualify for services. Patients must have a serious condition that is expected to last at least 3 months, such as cancer, heart failure, or substance use disorder.

But those without a definitive diagnosis may also qualify to receive navigator services.

In the rule, CMS cited a case in which a CT scan identified a suspicious mass in a patient’s colon. A clinician might decide this person would benefit from navigation services due to the potential risks for an undiagnosed illness.

“Regardless of the definitive diagnosis of the mass, presence of a colonic mass for that patient may be a serious high-risk condition that could, for example, cause obstruction and lead the patient to present to the emergency department, as well as be potentially indicative of an underlying life-threatening illness such as colon cancer,” CMS wrote in the rule.

Navigators often start their work when cancer patients are screened and guide them through initial diagnosis, potential surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy, said Sharon Gentry, MSN, RN, a former nurse navigator who is now the editor in chief of the Journal of the Academy of Oncology Nurse & Patient Navigators.

The navigators are meant to be a trusted and continual presence for patients, who otherwise might be left to start anew in finding help at each phase of care.

The navigators “see the whole picture. They see the whole journey the patient takes, from pre-diagnosis all the way through diagnosis care out through survival,” Ms. Gentry said.

Journal of Oncology Navigation &amp; Survivorship
Sharon Gentry



Gaining a special Medicare payment for these kinds of services will elevate this work, she said.

Many newer drugs can target specific mechanisms and proteins of cancer. Often, oncology treatment involves testing to find out if mutations are allowing the cancer cells to evade a patient’s immune system.

Checking these biomarkers takes time, however. Patients sometimes become frustrated because they are anxious to begin treatment. Patients may receive inaccurate information from friends or family who went through treatment previously. Navigators can provide knowledge on the current state of care for a patient’s disease, helping them better manage anxieties.

“You have to explain to them that things have changed since the guy you drink coffee with was diagnosed with cancer, and there may be a drug that could target that,” Ms. Gentry said.
 

 

 

Potential Challenges

Initial uptake of the new PIN codes may be slow going, however, as clinicians and health systems may already use well-established codes. These include CCM and principal care management services, which may pay higher rates, Mullangi said.

“There might be sensitivity around not wanting to cannibalize existing programs with a new program,” Dr. Mullangi said.

In addition, many patients will have a copay for the services of principal illness navigators, Dr. Mullangi said.

While many patients have additional insurance that would cover the service, not all do. People with traditional Medicare coverage can sometimes pay 20% of the cost of some medical services.

“I think that may give patients pause, particularly if they’re already feeling the financial burden of a cancer treatment journey,” Dr. Mullangi said.

Pay rates for PIN services involve calculations of regional price differences, which are posted publicly by CMS, and potential added fees for services provided by hospital-affiliated organizations.

Consider payments for code G0023, covering 60 minutes of principal navigation services provided in a single month.

A set reimbursement for patients cared for in independent medical practices exists, with variation for local costs. Medicare’s non-facility price for G0023 would be $102.41 in some parts of Silicon Valley in California, including San Jose. In Arkansas, where costs are lower, reimbursement would be $73.14 for this same service.

Patients who get services covered by code G0023 in independent medical practices would have monthly copays of about $15-$20, depending on where they live.

The tab for patients tends to be higher for these same services if delivered through a medical practice owned by a hospital, as this would trigger the addition of facility fees to the payments made to cover the services. Facility fees are difficult for the public to ascertain before getting a treatment or service.

Dr. Mullangi and Ms. Gentry reported no relevant financial disclosures outside of their employers.
 

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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When a patient signs on to a telehealth portal, there’s little more a provider can do than ask questions. But a new artificial intelligence (AI) technology could allow providers to get feedback about the patient’s blood pressure and diabetes risk just from a video call or a smartphone app.

Researchers at the University of Tokyo in Japan are using AI to determine whether people might have high blood pressure or diabetes based on video data collected with a special sensor. 

The technology relies on photoplethysmography (PPG), which measures changes in blood volume by detecting the amount of light absorbed by blood just below the skin. 

This technology is already used for things like finger pulse oximetry to determine oxygen saturation and heart rate. Wearable devices like Apple Watches and Fitbits also use PPG technologies to detect heart rate and atrial fibrillation.

“If we could detect and accurately measure your blood pressure, heart rate, and oxygen saturation non-invasively that would be fantastic,” said Eugene Yang, MD, professor of medicine in the division of cardiology at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle who was not involved in the study.

 

How Does PPG Work — and Is This New Tech Accurate?

Using PPG, “you’re detecting these small, little blood vessels that sit underneath the surface of your skin,” explained Yang.

“Since both hypertension and diabetes are diseases that damage blood vessels, we thought these diseases might affect blood flow and pulse wave transit times,” said Ryoko Uchida, a project researcher in the cardiology department at the University of Tokyo and one of the leaders of the study.

PPG devices primarily use green light to detect blood flow, as hemoglobin, the oxygen-carrying molecule in blood, absorbs green light most effectively, Yang said. “So, if you extract and remove all the other channels of light and only focus on the green channel, then that’s when you’ll be able to potentially see blood flow and pulsatile blood flow activity,” he noted.

The University of Tokyo researchers used remote or contactless PPG, which requires a short video recording of someone’s face and palms, as the person holds as still as possible. A special sensor collects the video and detects only certain wavelengths of light. Then the researchers developed an AI algorithm to extract data from participants’ skin, such as changes in pulse transit time — the time it takes for the pulse to travel from the palm to the face.

To correlate the video algorithm to blood pressure and diabetes risk, the researchers measured blood participants’ pressure with a continuous sphygmomanometer (an automatic blood pressure cuff) at the same time as they collected the video. They also did a blood A1c test to detect diabetes.

So far, they’ve tested their video algorithm on 215 people. The algorithm applied to a 30-second video was 86% accurate in detecting if blood pressure was above normal, and a 5-second video was 81% accurate in detecting higher blood pressure.

Compared with using hemoglobin A1c blood test results to screen for diabetes, the video algorithm was 75% accurate in identifying people who had subtle blood changes that correlated to diabetes.

“Most of this focus has been on wearable devices, patches, rings, wrist devices,” Yang said, “the facial video stuff is great because you can imagine that there are other ways of applying it.”

Yang, who is also doing research on facial video processing, pointed out it could be helpful not only in telehealth visits, but also for patients in the hospital with highly contagious diseases who need to be in isolation, or just for people using their smartphones. 

“People are tied to their smartphones, so you could imagine that that would be great as a way for people to have awareness about their blood pressure or their diabetes status,” Yang noted.

 

More Work to Do

The study has a few caveats. The special sensor they used in this study isn’t yet integrated into smartphone cameras or other common video recording devices. But Uchida is hopeful that it could be mass-produced and inexpensive to someday add.

Also, the study was done in a Japanese population, and lighter skin may be easier to capture changes in blood flow, Uchida noted. Pulse oximeters, which use the same technology, tend to overestimate blood oxygen in people with darker skin tones.

“It is necessary to test whether the same results are obtained in a variety of subjects other than Japanese and Asians,” Uchida said, in addition to validating the tool with more participants.

The study has also not yet undergone peer review.

And Yang pointed out that this new AI technology provides more of a screening tool to predict who is at high risk for high blood pressure or diabetes, rather than precise measurements for either disease.

There are already some devices that claim to measure blood pressure using PPG technology, like blood pressure monitoring watches. But Yang warns that these kinds of devices aren’t validated, meaning we don’t really know how well they work.

One difficulty in getting any kind of PPG blood pressure monitoring device to market is that the organizations involved in setting medical device standards (like the International Organization for Standards) doesn’t yet have a validation standard for this technology, Yang said, so there’s really no way to consistently verify the technology’s accuracy.

“I am optimistic that we are capable of figuring out how to validate these things. I just think we have so many things we have to iron out before that happens,” Yang explained, noting that it will be at least 3 years before a remote blood monitoring system is widely available.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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When a patient signs on to a telehealth portal, there’s little more a provider can do than ask questions. But a new artificial intelligence (AI) technology could allow providers to get feedback about the patient’s blood pressure and diabetes risk just from a video call or a smartphone app.

Researchers at the University of Tokyo in Japan are using AI to determine whether people might have high blood pressure or diabetes based on video data collected with a special sensor. 

The technology relies on photoplethysmography (PPG), which measures changes in blood volume by detecting the amount of light absorbed by blood just below the skin. 

This technology is already used for things like finger pulse oximetry to determine oxygen saturation and heart rate. Wearable devices like Apple Watches and Fitbits also use PPG technologies to detect heart rate and atrial fibrillation.

“If we could detect and accurately measure your blood pressure, heart rate, and oxygen saturation non-invasively that would be fantastic,” said Eugene Yang, MD, professor of medicine in the division of cardiology at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle who was not involved in the study.

 

How Does PPG Work — and Is This New Tech Accurate?

Using PPG, “you’re detecting these small, little blood vessels that sit underneath the surface of your skin,” explained Yang.

“Since both hypertension and diabetes are diseases that damage blood vessels, we thought these diseases might affect blood flow and pulse wave transit times,” said Ryoko Uchida, a project researcher in the cardiology department at the University of Tokyo and one of the leaders of the study.

PPG devices primarily use green light to detect blood flow, as hemoglobin, the oxygen-carrying molecule in blood, absorbs green light most effectively, Yang said. “So, if you extract and remove all the other channels of light and only focus on the green channel, then that’s when you’ll be able to potentially see blood flow and pulsatile blood flow activity,” he noted.

The University of Tokyo researchers used remote or contactless PPG, which requires a short video recording of someone’s face and palms, as the person holds as still as possible. A special sensor collects the video and detects only certain wavelengths of light. Then the researchers developed an AI algorithm to extract data from participants’ skin, such as changes in pulse transit time — the time it takes for the pulse to travel from the palm to the face.

To correlate the video algorithm to blood pressure and diabetes risk, the researchers measured blood participants’ pressure with a continuous sphygmomanometer (an automatic blood pressure cuff) at the same time as they collected the video. They also did a blood A1c test to detect diabetes.

So far, they’ve tested their video algorithm on 215 people. The algorithm applied to a 30-second video was 86% accurate in detecting if blood pressure was above normal, and a 5-second video was 81% accurate in detecting higher blood pressure.

Compared with using hemoglobin A1c blood test results to screen for diabetes, the video algorithm was 75% accurate in identifying people who had subtle blood changes that correlated to diabetes.

“Most of this focus has been on wearable devices, patches, rings, wrist devices,” Yang said, “the facial video stuff is great because you can imagine that there are other ways of applying it.”

Yang, who is also doing research on facial video processing, pointed out it could be helpful not only in telehealth visits, but also for patients in the hospital with highly contagious diseases who need to be in isolation, or just for people using their smartphones. 

“People are tied to their smartphones, so you could imagine that that would be great as a way for people to have awareness about their blood pressure or their diabetes status,” Yang noted.

 

More Work to Do

The study has a few caveats. The special sensor they used in this study isn’t yet integrated into smartphone cameras or other common video recording devices. But Uchida is hopeful that it could be mass-produced and inexpensive to someday add.

Also, the study was done in a Japanese population, and lighter skin may be easier to capture changes in blood flow, Uchida noted. Pulse oximeters, which use the same technology, tend to overestimate blood oxygen in people with darker skin tones.

“It is necessary to test whether the same results are obtained in a variety of subjects other than Japanese and Asians,” Uchida said, in addition to validating the tool with more participants.

The study has also not yet undergone peer review.

And Yang pointed out that this new AI technology provides more of a screening tool to predict who is at high risk for high blood pressure or diabetes, rather than precise measurements for either disease.

There are already some devices that claim to measure blood pressure using PPG technology, like blood pressure monitoring watches. But Yang warns that these kinds of devices aren’t validated, meaning we don’t really know how well they work.

One difficulty in getting any kind of PPG blood pressure monitoring device to market is that the organizations involved in setting medical device standards (like the International Organization for Standards) doesn’t yet have a validation standard for this technology, Yang said, so there’s really no way to consistently verify the technology’s accuracy.

“I am optimistic that we are capable of figuring out how to validate these things. I just think we have so many things we have to iron out before that happens,” Yang explained, noting that it will be at least 3 years before a remote blood monitoring system is widely available.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

When a patient signs on to a telehealth portal, there’s little more a provider can do than ask questions. But a new artificial intelligence (AI) technology could allow providers to get feedback about the patient’s blood pressure and diabetes risk just from a video call or a smartphone app.

Researchers at the University of Tokyo in Japan are using AI to determine whether people might have high blood pressure or diabetes based on video data collected with a special sensor. 

The technology relies on photoplethysmography (PPG), which measures changes in blood volume by detecting the amount of light absorbed by blood just below the skin. 

This technology is already used for things like finger pulse oximetry to determine oxygen saturation and heart rate. Wearable devices like Apple Watches and Fitbits also use PPG technologies to detect heart rate and atrial fibrillation.

“If we could detect and accurately measure your blood pressure, heart rate, and oxygen saturation non-invasively that would be fantastic,” said Eugene Yang, MD, professor of medicine in the division of cardiology at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle who was not involved in the study.

 

How Does PPG Work — and Is This New Tech Accurate?

Using PPG, “you’re detecting these small, little blood vessels that sit underneath the surface of your skin,” explained Yang.

“Since both hypertension and diabetes are diseases that damage blood vessels, we thought these diseases might affect blood flow and pulse wave transit times,” said Ryoko Uchida, a project researcher in the cardiology department at the University of Tokyo and one of the leaders of the study.

PPG devices primarily use green light to detect blood flow, as hemoglobin, the oxygen-carrying molecule in blood, absorbs green light most effectively, Yang said. “So, if you extract and remove all the other channels of light and only focus on the green channel, then that’s when you’ll be able to potentially see blood flow and pulsatile blood flow activity,” he noted.

The University of Tokyo researchers used remote or contactless PPG, which requires a short video recording of someone’s face and palms, as the person holds as still as possible. A special sensor collects the video and detects only certain wavelengths of light. Then the researchers developed an AI algorithm to extract data from participants’ skin, such as changes in pulse transit time — the time it takes for the pulse to travel from the palm to the face.

To correlate the video algorithm to blood pressure and diabetes risk, the researchers measured blood participants’ pressure with a continuous sphygmomanometer (an automatic blood pressure cuff) at the same time as they collected the video. They also did a blood A1c test to detect diabetes.

So far, they’ve tested their video algorithm on 215 people. The algorithm applied to a 30-second video was 86% accurate in detecting if blood pressure was above normal, and a 5-second video was 81% accurate in detecting higher blood pressure.

Compared with using hemoglobin A1c blood test results to screen for diabetes, the video algorithm was 75% accurate in identifying people who had subtle blood changes that correlated to diabetes.

“Most of this focus has been on wearable devices, patches, rings, wrist devices,” Yang said, “the facial video stuff is great because you can imagine that there are other ways of applying it.”

Yang, who is also doing research on facial video processing, pointed out it could be helpful not only in telehealth visits, but also for patients in the hospital with highly contagious diseases who need to be in isolation, or just for people using their smartphones. 

“People are tied to their smartphones, so you could imagine that that would be great as a way for people to have awareness about their blood pressure or their diabetes status,” Yang noted.

 

More Work to Do

The study has a few caveats. The special sensor they used in this study isn’t yet integrated into smartphone cameras or other common video recording devices. But Uchida is hopeful that it could be mass-produced and inexpensive to someday add.

Also, the study was done in a Japanese population, and lighter skin may be easier to capture changes in blood flow, Uchida noted. Pulse oximeters, which use the same technology, tend to overestimate blood oxygen in people with darker skin tones.

“It is necessary to test whether the same results are obtained in a variety of subjects other than Japanese and Asians,” Uchida said, in addition to validating the tool with more participants.

The study has also not yet undergone peer review.

And Yang pointed out that this new AI technology provides more of a screening tool to predict who is at high risk for high blood pressure or diabetes, rather than precise measurements for either disease.

There are already some devices that claim to measure blood pressure using PPG technology, like blood pressure monitoring watches. But Yang warns that these kinds of devices aren’t validated, meaning we don’t really know how well they work.

One difficulty in getting any kind of PPG blood pressure monitoring device to market is that the organizations involved in setting medical device standards (like the International Organization for Standards) doesn’t yet have a validation standard for this technology, Yang said, so there’s really no way to consistently verify the technology’s accuracy.

“I am optimistic that we are capable of figuring out how to validate these things. I just think we have so many things we have to iron out before that happens,” Yang explained, noting that it will be at least 3 years before a remote blood monitoring system is widely available.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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For some medical students and trainees who go on to become hematologists, attraction to the field happens the first time they’re engrossed in figuring out what a blood smear is telling them. Others get drawn to hematology during a rotation in residency, when they encounter patients with hemophilia or sickle cell disease.

But when it comes to turning people on to the idea of a career in classical hematology (CH), there may be no more powerful influence than a mentor who loves their job. That’s why the field is focusing so much on supporting mentors and mentees amid a stark shortage of classical hematologists.

“Mentorship is key for maintaining trainee interest in the field and for providing role models for career growth,” said Rakhi P. Naik, MD, MHS, associate professor of medicine and director of the Hematology Fellowship Track at Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, in an interview. “This collaboration is especially critical because there are so few trainees and so few mentors currently in the field.”

Now there’s new research backing up the power of mentorship, even when it’s only provided virtually, and a brand-new program aims to unite more mentors and mentees.

Here’s a closer look at mentor-focused efforts to attract medical students to CH.

 

How Severe Is the Shortage in CH?

Patients with conditions treated by classical hematologists are waiting months for appointments at many outpatient centers, with some being forced to wait 6 months or more, said Srikanth Nagalla, MD, chief of benign hematology at Miami Cancer Institute, Florida, in an interview.

The shortage is creating dire problems in the inpatient setting too, Nagalla said. “Serious blood disorders like heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, acute chest syndrome [a complication of sickle cell disease], and thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura have to be diagnosed and treated in a timely manner. If not, the morbidity and mortality are really high.”

If classical hematologists aren’t available, he said, oncologists and others not trained in hematology will need to cover these patients. 

Hematologist Ariela Marshall, MD, associate professor of medicine at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, noted in an interview that the CH shortage comes at a time when medical advances and an aging population are boosting the number of patients with noncancerous blood disorders. Older people are at greater risk for blood clots, she said. And lifespans for patients with bleeding and clotting disorders are rising thanks to effective new treatments.

“Because of our larger patient population in CH, we are going to need more classical hematologists to follow them for longer and longer periods of time,” she said. 

There’s no sign yet that newly minted physicians will take up the slack in CH. A 2019 study found that just 4.6% of 626 of hematology/oncology fellows said they planned to go into CH, also known as benign hematology, vs 67.1% who expected to treat patients with solid tumors, blood cancer, or both. The rest, 24.6%, planned to work in CH plus the two oncology fields.

 

Why Does a Shortage Exist?

“The reasons are complex, but one of the most important factors was the combining of the adult hematology and medical oncology training programs by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education in 1995,” Naik said. “After that time, the majority of fellowship training programs went from having separate programs for hematology and medical oncology to combining the training for the two specialties into one. Because most of these combined training programs resided within Cancer Centers, classical hematology training slowly became de-emphasized.”

As a result, fewer fellows ended up specializing in CH, she said. 

The field of CH also appears to suffer from a less than enticing reputation. According to a 2019 study coauthored by Marshall, surveys of thousands of hematology/oncology fellows found that “hematology, particularly benign hematology, was viewed as having poorer income potential, research funding, job availability, and job security than oncology.”

Regarding pay, Marshall said the good news is that many classical hematologists work in academia, where it’s common for pay to be “equitable across hematology/oncology divisions and based more on academic rank and other factors rather than subspecialty within hematology oncology.”

However, she noted, “this may differ at institutions where hematology and oncology are different departments. For example, centers where oncology is its own department, and hematology is part of the department of medicine.” 

As for job availability, Naik said that there’s plenty of demand. “In academics, it is clear that there are jobs available everywhere, but trainees are often worried about job prospects in private practice. While classical hematology jobs in private practice are not widely advertised, I can attest that there is no shortage of need,” she said. “Many private practices do not specifically advertise for classical hematologists because they assume that classical hematology experts are not available. But I assure you that every private practice my trainees have ever approached is always ecstatic to hire a classical hematologist.”

 

Why Are Mentors Important?

Mentorship is crucial to promoting the value of CH as a great career choice in a competitive environment, classical hematologists say. “We can motivate trainees by showing how the disease states themselves are so fascinating and how the treatments are showing great outcomes,” Nagalla said. “We can show positive results, how patient lives can be changed, and how well-respected across the system [we] are.”

As a selling point, classical hematologists like to emphasize that their field requires intensive detective work. “Let’s say a patient comes with anemia, which might have 15 different causes. You get some labs, and then you systemically rule in or rule out most of these on the differential diagnosis,” Nagalla said. “Then once you narrow it down, you get more labs. You keep going to the next step and next step, and so finally you come to a conclusion.”

As for therapy, Marshall said that “while for many cancers there are specific treatment recommendations for patients with a specific cancer type at a specific stage, there is not always a specific treatment recommendation (or a ‘right answer’) for our CH patients. Treatment planning depends strongly on a patient’s preferences, other medical conditions, and a discussion about risks [and] benefits of different treatment options such that two patients with the same condition may choose two different treatment options.”

Marshall also emphasizes to trainees that “CH is a broad field. Physicians and trainees are able to interact and collaborate with physicians in other specialties such as gastroenterology, cardiology, ob/gyn, and surgical specialties.” 

 

Does Research Support Mentorship in CH?

The 2019 study that revealed just 4.6% of fellows planned to go into CH found that “fellows who planned to enter hematology-only careers were significantly more likely to report having clinical training and mentorship experiences in hematology throughout their training relative to fellows with oncology-only or combined hematology/oncology career plans.”

Now there are more data to support mentorships. For a study published in Blood Advances in September 2024, Zoya Qureshy, MD, an internal medicine chief resident at the University of California at San Diego, and colleagues evaluated a year-long external membership program implemented by the American Society of Hematology (ASH) Medical Educators Institute. 

The program linked 35 US hematology/oncology fellows (80% female, 46% White, 35% Asian) who were interested in CH to 34 North American faculty members. The pairs were told to meet virtually once a month. 

Of 30 mentees and 23 mentors surveyed, 94% and 85%, respectively, said their pairings were good matches. Two thirds of the mentees accepted faculty positions in CH after their mentorships.

“Our study showed that external mentorship in a virtual format is feasible,” Qureshy said in an interview. “Additionally, external mentorship provided benefits such as different perspectives and the opportunity for mentorship for those who may not have it in their field of interest at their home institution.”

Qureshy added that “one strength of our mentorship program was that mentoring pairs were meticulously assigned based on shared interests and background. Many participants cited this common ground as a reason why they thought their mentoring pair was a good match.” 

There’s an important caveat: Most of the mentees weren’t new to CH. About 70% had previously worked with a mentor in the CH field, and 86% had previously conducted research in the field. 

 

What’s Next for Mentorship in CH?

The ASH Hematology-Focused Fellowship Training Program Consortium aims to mint 50 new academic hematologists by 2030 through programs at 12 institutions. “Mentorship is an exciting aspect of the program since it allows classical hematology trainees to form a network of peers nationally and also provides access to mentors across institutions,” Naik said. “And as the workforce grows, there will be more and more role models for future trainees to look up to.”

Moving forward, she said, “we hope to inspire even more institutions to adopt hematology training tracks throughout the country.”

Meanwhile, ASH’s new Classical Hematology Advancement Mentorship is taking applications for its debut 2025 program through January 9, 2025. Trainees will meet monthly with mentors both virtually and in person. Applicants must have been in their first or second year of hematology/oncology fellowship training at accredited programs in the United States as of July 15, 2024.

Naik, Marshall, Nagalla, and Qureshy have no relevant disclosures.

A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.

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For some medical students and trainees who go on to become hematologists, attraction to the field happens the first time they’re engrossed in figuring out what a blood smear is telling them. Others get drawn to hematology during a rotation in residency, when they encounter patients with hemophilia or sickle cell disease.

But when it comes to turning people on to the idea of a career in classical hematology (CH), there may be no more powerful influence than a mentor who loves their job. That’s why the field is focusing so much on supporting mentors and mentees amid a stark shortage of classical hematologists.

“Mentorship is key for maintaining trainee interest in the field and for providing role models for career growth,” said Rakhi P. Naik, MD, MHS, associate professor of medicine and director of the Hematology Fellowship Track at Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, in an interview. “This collaboration is especially critical because there are so few trainees and so few mentors currently in the field.”

Now there’s new research backing up the power of mentorship, even when it’s only provided virtually, and a brand-new program aims to unite more mentors and mentees.

Here’s a closer look at mentor-focused efforts to attract medical students to CH.

 

How Severe Is the Shortage in CH?

Patients with conditions treated by classical hematologists are waiting months for appointments at many outpatient centers, with some being forced to wait 6 months or more, said Srikanth Nagalla, MD, chief of benign hematology at Miami Cancer Institute, Florida, in an interview.

The shortage is creating dire problems in the inpatient setting too, Nagalla said. “Serious blood disorders like heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, acute chest syndrome [a complication of sickle cell disease], and thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura have to be diagnosed and treated in a timely manner. If not, the morbidity and mortality are really high.”

If classical hematologists aren’t available, he said, oncologists and others not trained in hematology will need to cover these patients. 

Hematologist Ariela Marshall, MD, associate professor of medicine at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, noted in an interview that the CH shortage comes at a time when medical advances and an aging population are boosting the number of patients with noncancerous blood disorders. Older people are at greater risk for blood clots, she said. And lifespans for patients with bleeding and clotting disorders are rising thanks to effective new treatments.

“Because of our larger patient population in CH, we are going to need more classical hematologists to follow them for longer and longer periods of time,” she said. 

There’s no sign yet that newly minted physicians will take up the slack in CH. A 2019 study found that just 4.6% of 626 of hematology/oncology fellows said they planned to go into CH, also known as benign hematology, vs 67.1% who expected to treat patients with solid tumors, blood cancer, or both. The rest, 24.6%, planned to work in CH plus the two oncology fields.

 

Why Does a Shortage Exist?

“The reasons are complex, but one of the most important factors was the combining of the adult hematology and medical oncology training programs by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education in 1995,” Naik said. “After that time, the majority of fellowship training programs went from having separate programs for hematology and medical oncology to combining the training for the two specialties into one. Because most of these combined training programs resided within Cancer Centers, classical hematology training slowly became de-emphasized.”

As a result, fewer fellows ended up specializing in CH, she said. 

The field of CH also appears to suffer from a less than enticing reputation. According to a 2019 study coauthored by Marshall, surveys of thousands of hematology/oncology fellows found that “hematology, particularly benign hematology, was viewed as having poorer income potential, research funding, job availability, and job security than oncology.”

Regarding pay, Marshall said the good news is that many classical hematologists work in academia, where it’s common for pay to be “equitable across hematology/oncology divisions and based more on academic rank and other factors rather than subspecialty within hematology oncology.”

However, she noted, “this may differ at institutions where hematology and oncology are different departments. For example, centers where oncology is its own department, and hematology is part of the department of medicine.” 

As for job availability, Naik said that there’s plenty of demand. “In academics, it is clear that there are jobs available everywhere, but trainees are often worried about job prospects in private practice. While classical hematology jobs in private practice are not widely advertised, I can attest that there is no shortage of need,” she said. “Many private practices do not specifically advertise for classical hematologists because they assume that classical hematology experts are not available. But I assure you that every private practice my trainees have ever approached is always ecstatic to hire a classical hematologist.”

 

Why Are Mentors Important?

Mentorship is crucial to promoting the value of CH as a great career choice in a competitive environment, classical hematologists say. “We can motivate trainees by showing how the disease states themselves are so fascinating and how the treatments are showing great outcomes,” Nagalla said. “We can show positive results, how patient lives can be changed, and how well-respected across the system [we] are.”

As a selling point, classical hematologists like to emphasize that their field requires intensive detective work. “Let’s say a patient comes with anemia, which might have 15 different causes. You get some labs, and then you systemically rule in or rule out most of these on the differential diagnosis,” Nagalla said. “Then once you narrow it down, you get more labs. You keep going to the next step and next step, and so finally you come to a conclusion.”

As for therapy, Marshall said that “while for many cancers there are specific treatment recommendations for patients with a specific cancer type at a specific stage, there is not always a specific treatment recommendation (or a ‘right answer’) for our CH patients. Treatment planning depends strongly on a patient’s preferences, other medical conditions, and a discussion about risks [and] benefits of different treatment options such that two patients with the same condition may choose two different treatment options.”

Marshall also emphasizes to trainees that “CH is a broad field. Physicians and trainees are able to interact and collaborate with physicians in other specialties such as gastroenterology, cardiology, ob/gyn, and surgical specialties.” 

 

Does Research Support Mentorship in CH?

The 2019 study that revealed just 4.6% of fellows planned to go into CH found that “fellows who planned to enter hematology-only careers were significantly more likely to report having clinical training and mentorship experiences in hematology throughout their training relative to fellows with oncology-only or combined hematology/oncology career plans.”

Now there are more data to support mentorships. For a study published in Blood Advances in September 2024, Zoya Qureshy, MD, an internal medicine chief resident at the University of California at San Diego, and colleagues evaluated a year-long external membership program implemented by the American Society of Hematology (ASH) Medical Educators Institute. 

The program linked 35 US hematology/oncology fellows (80% female, 46% White, 35% Asian) who were interested in CH to 34 North American faculty members. The pairs were told to meet virtually once a month. 

Of 30 mentees and 23 mentors surveyed, 94% and 85%, respectively, said their pairings were good matches. Two thirds of the mentees accepted faculty positions in CH after their mentorships.

“Our study showed that external mentorship in a virtual format is feasible,” Qureshy said in an interview. “Additionally, external mentorship provided benefits such as different perspectives and the opportunity for mentorship for those who may not have it in their field of interest at their home institution.”

Qureshy added that “one strength of our mentorship program was that mentoring pairs were meticulously assigned based on shared interests and background. Many participants cited this common ground as a reason why they thought their mentoring pair was a good match.” 

There’s an important caveat: Most of the mentees weren’t new to CH. About 70% had previously worked with a mentor in the CH field, and 86% had previously conducted research in the field. 

 

What’s Next for Mentorship in CH?

The ASH Hematology-Focused Fellowship Training Program Consortium aims to mint 50 new academic hematologists by 2030 through programs at 12 institutions. “Mentorship is an exciting aspect of the program since it allows classical hematology trainees to form a network of peers nationally and also provides access to mentors across institutions,” Naik said. “And as the workforce grows, there will be more and more role models for future trainees to look up to.”

Moving forward, she said, “we hope to inspire even more institutions to adopt hematology training tracks throughout the country.”

Meanwhile, ASH’s new Classical Hematology Advancement Mentorship is taking applications for its debut 2025 program through January 9, 2025. Trainees will meet monthly with mentors both virtually and in person. Applicants must have been in their first or second year of hematology/oncology fellowship training at accredited programs in the United States as of July 15, 2024.

Naik, Marshall, Nagalla, and Qureshy have no relevant disclosures.

A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.

For some medical students and trainees who go on to become hematologists, attraction to the field happens the first time they’re engrossed in figuring out what a blood smear is telling them. Others get drawn to hematology during a rotation in residency, when they encounter patients with hemophilia or sickle cell disease.

But when it comes to turning people on to the idea of a career in classical hematology (CH), there may be no more powerful influence than a mentor who loves their job. That’s why the field is focusing so much on supporting mentors and mentees amid a stark shortage of classical hematologists.

“Mentorship is key for maintaining trainee interest in the field and for providing role models for career growth,” said Rakhi P. Naik, MD, MHS, associate professor of medicine and director of the Hematology Fellowship Track at Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, in an interview. “This collaboration is especially critical because there are so few trainees and so few mentors currently in the field.”

Now there’s new research backing up the power of mentorship, even when it’s only provided virtually, and a brand-new program aims to unite more mentors and mentees.

Here’s a closer look at mentor-focused efforts to attract medical students to CH.

 

How Severe Is the Shortage in CH?

Patients with conditions treated by classical hematologists are waiting months for appointments at many outpatient centers, with some being forced to wait 6 months or more, said Srikanth Nagalla, MD, chief of benign hematology at Miami Cancer Institute, Florida, in an interview.

The shortage is creating dire problems in the inpatient setting too, Nagalla said. “Serious blood disorders like heparin-induced thrombocytopenia, acute chest syndrome [a complication of sickle cell disease], and thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura have to be diagnosed and treated in a timely manner. If not, the morbidity and mortality are really high.”

If classical hematologists aren’t available, he said, oncologists and others not trained in hematology will need to cover these patients. 

Hematologist Ariela Marshall, MD, associate professor of medicine at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, noted in an interview that the CH shortage comes at a time when medical advances and an aging population are boosting the number of patients with noncancerous blood disorders. Older people are at greater risk for blood clots, she said. And lifespans for patients with bleeding and clotting disorders are rising thanks to effective new treatments.

“Because of our larger patient population in CH, we are going to need more classical hematologists to follow them for longer and longer periods of time,” she said. 

There’s no sign yet that newly minted physicians will take up the slack in CH. A 2019 study found that just 4.6% of 626 of hematology/oncology fellows said they planned to go into CH, also known as benign hematology, vs 67.1% who expected to treat patients with solid tumors, blood cancer, or both. The rest, 24.6%, planned to work in CH plus the two oncology fields.

 

Why Does a Shortage Exist?

“The reasons are complex, but one of the most important factors was the combining of the adult hematology and medical oncology training programs by the Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education in 1995,” Naik said. “After that time, the majority of fellowship training programs went from having separate programs for hematology and medical oncology to combining the training for the two specialties into one. Because most of these combined training programs resided within Cancer Centers, classical hematology training slowly became de-emphasized.”

As a result, fewer fellows ended up specializing in CH, she said. 

The field of CH also appears to suffer from a less than enticing reputation. According to a 2019 study coauthored by Marshall, surveys of thousands of hematology/oncology fellows found that “hematology, particularly benign hematology, was viewed as having poorer income potential, research funding, job availability, and job security than oncology.”

Regarding pay, Marshall said the good news is that many classical hematologists work in academia, where it’s common for pay to be “equitable across hematology/oncology divisions and based more on academic rank and other factors rather than subspecialty within hematology oncology.”

However, she noted, “this may differ at institutions where hematology and oncology are different departments. For example, centers where oncology is its own department, and hematology is part of the department of medicine.” 

As for job availability, Naik said that there’s plenty of demand. “In academics, it is clear that there are jobs available everywhere, but trainees are often worried about job prospects in private practice. While classical hematology jobs in private practice are not widely advertised, I can attest that there is no shortage of need,” she said. “Many private practices do not specifically advertise for classical hematologists because they assume that classical hematology experts are not available. But I assure you that every private practice my trainees have ever approached is always ecstatic to hire a classical hematologist.”

 

Why Are Mentors Important?

Mentorship is crucial to promoting the value of CH as a great career choice in a competitive environment, classical hematologists say. “We can motivate trainees by showing how the disease states themselves are so fascinating and how the treatments are showing great outcomes,” Nagalla said. “We can show positive results, how patient lives can be changed, and how well-respected across the system [we] are.”

As a selling point, classical hematologists like to emphasize that their field requires intensive detective work. “Let’s say a patient comes with anemia, which might have 15 different causes. You get some labs, and then you systemically rule in or rule out most of these on the differential diagnosis,” Nagalla said. “Then once you narrow it down, you get more labs. You keep going to the next step and next step, and so finally you come to a conclusion.”

As for therapy, Marshall said that “while for many cancers there are specific treatment recommendations for patients with a specific cancer type at a specific stage, there is not always a specific treatment recommendation (or a ‘right answer’) for our CH patients. Treatment planning depends strongly on a patient’s preferences, other medical conditions, and a discussion about risks [and] benefits of different treatment options such that two patients with the same condition may choose two different treatment options.”

Marshall also emphasizes to trainees that “CH is a broad field. Physicians and trainees are able to interact and collaborate with physicians in other specialties such as gastroenterology, cardiology, ob/gyn, and surgical specialties.” 

 

Does Research Support Mentorship in CH?

The 2019 study that revealed just 4.6% of fellows planned to go into CH found that “fellows who planned to enter hematology-only careers were significantly more likely to report having clinical training and mentorship experiences in hematology throughout their training relative to fellows with oncology-only or combined hematology/oncology career plans.”

Now there are more data to support mentorships. For a study published in Blood Advances in September 2024, Zoya Qureshy, MD, an internal medicine chief resident at the University of California at San Diego, and colleagues evaluated a year-long external membership program implemented by the American Society of Hematology (ASH) Medical Educators Institute. 

The program linked 35 US hematology/oncology fellows (80% female, 46% White, 35% Asian) who were interested in CH to 34 North American faculty members. The pairs were told to meet virtually once a month. 

Of 30 mentees and 23 mentors surveyed, 94% and 85%, respectively, said their pairings were good matches. Two thirds of the mentees accepted faculty positions in CH after their mentorships.

“Our study showed that external mentorship in a virtual format is feasible,” Qureshy said in an interview. “Additionally, external mentorship provided benefits such as different perspectives and the opportunity for mentorship for those who may not have it in their field of interest at their home institution.”

Qureshy added that “one strength of our mentorship program was that mentoring pairs were meticulously assigned based on shared interests and background. Many participants cited this common ground as a reason why they thought their mentoring pair was a good match.” 

There’s an important caveat: Most of the mentees weren’t new to CH. About 70% had previously worked with a mentor in the CH field, and 86% had previously conducted research in the field. 

 

What’s Next for Mentorship in CH?

The ASH Hematology-Focused Fellowship Training Program Consortium aims to mint 50 new academic hematologists by 2030 through programs at 12 institutions. “Mentorship is an exciting aspect of the program since it allows classical hematology trainees to form a network of peers nationally and also provides access to mentors across institutions,” Naik said. “And as the workforce grows, there will be more and more role models for future trainees to look up to.”

Moving forward, she said, “we hope to inspire even more institutions to adopt hematology training tracks throughout the country.”

Meanwhile, ASH’s new Classical Hematology Advancement Mentorship is taking applications for its debut 2025 program through January 9, 2025. Trainees will meet monthly with mentors both virtually and in person. Applicants must have been in their first or second year of hematology/oncology fellowship training at accredited programs in the United States as of July 15, 2024.

Naik, Marshall, Nagalla, and Qureshy have no relevant disclosures.

A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.

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’Tis the season for recognizing seasonal affective disorder (SAD). Just don’t expect to find SAD in diagnostic handbooks.

As a memorable term, SAD “stuck in the general public, and to some extent among health professionals,” said Scott Patten, MD, PhD, professor of psychiatry and epidemiology at the University of Calgary in Alberta, Canada. “But it’s important to emphasize that that’s not an officially recognized diagnosis by the major classifications.”

Researchers coined the term SAD 40 years ago to describe a pattern of depression that sets in during the fall or winter and remits in the spring or summer.

Clinicians are diagnosing the disorder, albeit without that exact moniker.

In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5), the condition is considered a subtype of major depression.

So, for patients who meet criteria for recurrent major depressive disorder, the specifier “with seasonal pattern” might be applied.

The subtype covers cases where depressive episodes have followed a seasonal pattern for at least 2 years. Typically, onset occurs in the fall or winter followed by remission in the spring or summer. The opposite pattern is possible but less common.

When stressors such as seasonal unemployment better explain the pattern, the seasonal specifier should not be used, according to the manual. Bipolar disorder can follow a seasonal pattern as well.

Researchers estimate SAD affects about 5% of adults in the United States. The diagnosis is more common in women than in men, and more prevalent farther from the equator.

 

One Hallmark Symptom?

DSM-5 highlights characteristic features of winter depression, including:

  • Loss of energy
  • Hypersomnia
  • A craving for carbohydrates
  • Overeating
  • Weight gain

Kelly Rohan, PhD, a researcher at the University of Vermont, Burlington, who has studied SAD since the 1990s, sees one symptom as a possible hallmark for the disorder: fatigue.

“I’ve personally never met someone who met the full diagnostic criteria for the seasonal pattern that did not have fatigue as one of their symptoms,” Rohan said. “In theory, they could exist, but I have spoken to hundreds of people with seasonal depression, and I have never met them if, in fact, they do exist.”

That differs from nonseasonal depression, for which insomnia is a more common problem with sleep, Patten said.

Clinicians look for at least five symptoms of depression that cause substantial impairment and distress for at least 2 weeks, such as pervasive sadness, difficulty concentrating, low self-esteem, or loss of interest in hobbies.

An average episode of winter depression can last 5 months, however, Rohan said. “That’s a long time to be in a major depressive episode.”

 

Seeing Subsyndromal Cases

In people who do not meet criteria for major depression with a seasonal pattern, the change of seasons still can affect energy levels and mood. Some patients have “subsyndromal SAD” and may benefit from treatments that have been developed for SAD such as bright light therapy, said Paul Desan, MD, PhD, director of the Winter Depression Research Clinic at Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut.

“Many people come to our clinic because they have seasonal changes that don’t meet the full criteria for depression, but nevertheless, they want help,” Desan said.

The 1984 paper that introduced the term SAD explored artificial bright light as a promising treatment for the condition. The researchers had heard from dozens of patients with “recurrent depressions that occur annually at the same time each year,” and bright light appeared to help alleviate their symptoms.

Subsequent trials have found the approach effective. Even in nonseasonal depression, bright light therapy may increase the likelihood of remission, a recent meta-analysis found. Light therapy also may bolster the effectiveness of antidepressant medication in nonseasonal major depressive disorder, a randomized trial has shown.

Other treatments for SAD include cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and bupropion XL, which is approved as a preventive medication. Other drugs for major depressive disorder may be used.

 

Quest for Biomarkers

To better understand SAD and how available treatments work, Rohan is conducting a study that examines potential biomarkers in patients treated with light therapy or CBT. She and her colleagues are examining circadian phase angle difference (how well internal clocks match daily routines) and post-illumination pupil response (how the pupil constricts after a light turns off). They also are measuring participants’ pupil responses and brain activity upon seeing words that are associated with winter or summer (like “blizzard,” “icy,” “sunshine,” and “picnics.”) 

Studies have shown treating patients to remission with CBT reduces the risk for recurrence in subsequent years, relative to other treatment approaches, Rohan said. That may be because CBT gives people tools to avoid slipping into another depressive episode.

 

Avoid Self-Diagnosis

Rohan cautions patients against self-diagnosis and treatment.

“Having a conversation with your doctor is a good starting point,” she said. “Just because you can walk into Costco and walk out with a light box doesn’t mean that you should.” 

Light therapy can have side effects, including headaches, eye strain, and making patients feel wired, and it can be a challenge to determine the right dose, Rohan said.

Desan’s clinic website provides information about available devices for light therapy for patients who are looking to try this approach, but Desan agrees clinicians — especially primary care clinicians — can play a crucial role in helping patients. In more serious cases, a mental health expert may be necessary.

To start light therapy, Desan’s clinic typically recommends patients try 30 minutes of 10,000 lux bright light — roughly the brightness of being outside on a sunny day — before 8 AM for a 4-week trial.

Still, other specific issues might explain why a patient is struggling during winter months, Patten said. For example, people might experience financial stress around the holidays or consume excessive amounts of alcohol during that time.

“It’s important for clinicians to think broadly about it,” Patten said. “It might not always be light therapy or a medication. It might be focusing on some other aspect of what is going on for them in the winter.” 

Rohan’s research is funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, and she receives royalties for a manual on treating SAD with CBT. Patten and Desan had no relevant financial disclosures.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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’Tis the season for recognizing seasonal affective disorder (SAD). Just don’t expect to find SAD in diagnostic handbooks.

As a memorable term, SAD “stuck in the general public, and to some extent among health professionals,” said Scott Patten, MD, PhD, professor of psychiatry and epidemiology at the University of Calgary in Alberta, Canada. “But it’s important to emphasize that that’s not an officially recognized diagnosis by the major classifications.”

Researchers coined the term SAD 40 years ago to describe a pattern of depression that sets in during the fall or winter and remits in the spring or summer.

Clinicians are diagnosing the disorder, albeit without that exact moniker.

In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5), the condition is considered a subtype of major depression.

So, for patients who meet criteria for recurrent major depressive disorder, the specifier “with seasonal pattern” might be applied.

The subtype covers cases where depressive episodes have followed a seasonal pattern for at least 2 years. Typically, onset occurs in the fall or winter followed by remission in the spring or summer. The opposite pattern is possible but less common.

When stressors such as seasonal unemployment better explain the pattern, the seasonal specifier should not be used, according to the manual. Bipolar disorder can follow a seasonal pattern as well.

Researchers estimate SAD affects about 5% of adults in the United States. The diagnosis is more common in women than in men, and more prevalent farther from the equator.

 

One Hallmark Symptom?

DSM-5 highlights characteristic features of winter depression, including:

  • Loss of energy
  • Hypersomnia
  • A craving for carbohydrates
  • Overeating
  • Weight gain

Kelly Rohan, PhD, a researcher at the University of Vermont, Burlington, who has studied SAD since the 1990s, sees one symptom as a possible hallmark for the disorder: fatigue.

“I’ve personally never met someone who met the full diagnostic criteria for the seasonal pattern that did not have fatigue as one of their symptoms,” Rohan said. “In theory, they could exist, but I have spoken to hundreds of people with seasonal depression, and I have never met them if, in fact, they do exist.”

That differs from nonseasonal depression, for which insomnia is a more common problem with sleep, Patten said.

Clinicians look for at least five symptoms of depression that cause substantial impairment and distress for at least 2 weeks, such as pervasive sadness, difficulty concentrating, low self-esteem, or loss of interest in hobbies.

An average episode of winter depression can last 5 months, however, Rohan said. “That’s a long time to be in a major depressive episode.”

 

Seeing Subsyndromal Cases

In people who do not meet criteria for major depression with a seasonal pattern, the change of seasons still can affect energy levels and mood. Some patients have “subsyndromal SAD” and may benefit from treatments that have been developed for SAD such as bright light therapy, said Paul Desan, MD, PhD, director of the Winter Depression Research Clinic at Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut.

“Many people come to our clinic because they have seasonal changes that don’t meet the full criteria for depression, but nevertheless, they want help,” Desan said.

The 1984 paper that introduced the term SAD explored artificial bright light as a promising treatment for the condition. The researchers had heard from dozens of patients with “recurrent depressions that occur annually at the same time each year,” and bright light appeared to help alleviate their symptoms.

Subsequent trials have found the approach effective. Even in nonseasonal depression, bright light therapy may increase the likelihood of remission, a recent meta-analysis found. Light therapy also may bolster the effectiveness of antidepressant medication in nonseasonal major depressive disorder, a randomized trial has shown.

Other treatments for SAD include cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and bupropion XL, which is approved as a preventive medication. Other drugs for major depressive disorder may be used.

 

Quest for Biomarkers

To better understand SAD and how available treatments work, Rohan is conducting a study that examines potential biomarkers in patients treated with light therapy or CBT. She and her colleagues are examining circadian phase angle difference (how well internal clocks match daily routines) and post-illumination pupil response (how the pupil constricts after a light turns off). They also are measuring participants’ pupil responses and brain activity upon seeing words that are associated with winter or summer (like “blizzard,” “icy,” “sunshine,” and “picnics.”) 

Studies have shown treating patients to remission with CBT reduces the risk for recurrence in subsequent years, relative to other treatment approaches, Rohan said. That may be because CBT gives people tools to avoid slipping into another depressive episode.

 

Avoid Self-Diagnosis

Rohan cautions patients against self-diagnosis and treatment.

“Having a conversation with your doctor is a good starting point,” she said. “Just because you can walk into Costco and walk out with a light box doesn’t mean that you should.” 

Light therapy can have side effects, including headaches, eye strain, and making patients feel wired, and it can be a challenge to determine the right dose, Rohan said.

Desan’s clinic website provides information about available devices for light therapy for patients who are looking to try this approach, but Desan agrees clinicians — especially primary care clinicians — can play a crucial role in helping patients. In more serious cases, a mental health expert may be necessary.

To start light therapy, Desan’s clinic typically recommends patients try 30 minutes of 10,000 lux bright light — roughly the brightness of being outside on a sunny day — before 8 AM for a 4-week trial.

Still, other specific issues might explain why a patient is struggling during winter months, Patten said. For example, people might experience financial stress around the holidays or consume excessive amounts of alcohol during that time.

“It’s important for clinicians to think broadly about it,” Patten said. “It might not always be light therapy or a medication. It might be focusing on some other aspect of what is going on for them in the winter.” 

Rohan’s research is funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, and she receives royalties for a manual on treating SAD with CBT. Patten and Desan had no relevant financial disclosures.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

’Tis the season for recognizing seasonal affective disorder (SAD). Just don’t expect to find SAD in diagnostic handbooks.

As a memorable term, SAD “stuck in the general public, and to some extent among health professionals,” said Scott Patten, MD, PhD, professor of psychiatry and epidemiology at the University of Calgary in Alberta, Canada. “But it’s important to emphasize that that’s not an officially recognized diagnosis by the major classifications.”

Researchers coined the term SAD 40 years ago to describe a pattern of depression that sets in during the fall or winter and remits in the spring or summer.

Clinicians are diagnosing the disorder, albeit without that exact moniker.

In the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5), the condition is considered a subtype of major depression.

So, for patients who meet criteria for recurrent major depressive disorder, the specifier “with seasonal pattern” might be applied.

The subtype covers cases where depressive episodes have followed a seasonal pattern for at least 2 years. Typically, onset occurs in the fall or winter followed by remission in the spring or summer. The opposite pattern is possible but less common.

When stressors such as seasonal unemployment better explain the pattern, the seasonal specifier should not be used, according to the manual. Bipolar disorder can follow a seasonal pattern as well.

Researchers estimate SAD affects about 5% of adults in the United States. The diagnosis is more common in women than in men, and more prevalent farther from the equator.

 

One Hallmark Symptom?

DSM-5 highlights characteristic features of winter depression, including:

  • Loss of energy
  • Hypersomnia
  • A craving for carbohydrates
  • Overeating
  • Weight gain

Kelly Rohan, PhD, a researcher at the University of Vermont, Burlington, who has studied SAD since the 1990s, sees one symptom as a possible hallmark for the disorder: fatigue.

“I’ve personally never met someone who met the full diagnostic criteria for the seasonal pattern that did not have fatigue as one of their symptoms,” Rohan said. “In theory, they could exist, but I have spoken to hundreds of people with seasonal depression, and I have never met them if, in fact, they do exist.”

That differs from nonseasonal depression, for which insomnia is a more common problem with sleep, Patten said.

Clinicians look for at least five symptoms of depression that cause substantial impairment and distress for at least 2 weeks, such as pervasive sadness, difficulty concentrating, low self-esteem, or loss of interest in hobbies.

An average episode of winter depression can last 5 months, however, Rohan said. “That’s a long time to be in a major depressive episode.”

 

Seeing Subsyndromal Cases

In people who do not meet criteria for major depression with a seasonal pattern, the change of seasons still can affect energy levels and mood. Some patients have “subsyndromal SAD” and may benefit from treatments that have been developed for SAD such as bright light therapy, said Paul Desan, MD, PhD, director of the Winter Depression Research Clinic at Yale School of Medicine in New Haven, Connecticut.

“Many people come to our clinic because they have seasonal changes that don’t meet the full criteria for depression, but nevertheless, they want help,” Desan said.

The 1984 paper that introduced the term SAD explored artificial bright light as a promising treatment for the condition. The researchers had heard from dozens of patients with “recurrent depressions that occur annually at the same time each year,” and bright light appeared to help alleviate their symptoms.

Subsequent trials have found the approach effective. Even in nonseasonal depression, bright light therapy may increase the likelihood of remission, a recent meta-analysis found. Light therapy also may bolster the effectiveness of antidepressant medication in nonseasonal major depressive disorder, a randomized trial has shown.

Other treatments for SAD include cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) and bupropion XL, which is approved as a preventive medication. Other drugs for major depressive disorder may be used.

 

Quest for Biomarkers

To better understand SAD and how available treatments work, Rohan is conducting a study that examines potential biomarkers in patients treated with light therapy or CBT. She and her colleagues are examining circadian phase angle difference (how well internal clocks match daily routines) and post-illumination pupil response (how the pupil constricts after a light turns off). They also are measuring participants’ pupil responses and brain activity upon seeing words that are associated with winter or summer (like “blizzard,” “icy,” “sunshine,” and “picnics.”) 

Studies have shown treating patients to remission with CBT reduces the risk for recurrence in subsequent years, relative to other treatment approaches, Rohan said. That may be because CBT gives people tools to avoid slipping into another depressive episode.

 

Avoid Self-Diagnosis

Rohan cautions patients against self-diagnosis and treatment.

“Having a conversation with your doctor is a good starting point,” she said. “Just because you can walk into Costco and walk out with a light box doesn’t mean that you should.” 

Light therapy can have side effects, including headaches, eye strain, and making patients feel wired, and it can be a challenge to determine the right dose, Rohan said.

Desan’s clinic website provides information about available devices for light therapy for patients who are looking to try this approach, but Desan agrees clinicians — especially primary care clinicians — can play a crucial role in helping patients. In more serious cases, a mental health expert may be necessary.

To start light therapy, Desan’s clinic typically recommends patients try 30 minutes of 10,000 lux bright light — roughly the brightness of being outside on a sunny day — before 8 AM for a 4-week trial.

Still, other specific issues might explain why a patient is struggling during winter months, Patten said. For example, people might experience financial stress around the holidays or consume excessive amounts of alcohol during that time.

“It’s important for clinicians to think broadly about it,” Patten said. “It might not always be light therapy or a medication. It might be focusing on some other aspect of what is going on for them in the winter.” 

Rohan’s research is funded by the National Institute of Mental Health, and she receives royalties for a manual on treating SAD with CBT. Patten and Desan had no relevant financial disclosures.

A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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Use of the glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) receptor agonists semaglutide and liraglutide is linked to a lower risk for alcohol use disorder (AUD)–related hospitalizations, compared with traditional AUD medications, a new study suggested.

METHODOLOGY:

  • Researchers conducted a nationwide cohort study from 2006 to 2023 in Sweden that included more than 220,000 individuals with AUD (mean age, 40 years; 64% men).
  • Data were obtained from registers of inpatient and specialized outpatient care, sickness absence, and disability pension, with a median follow-up period of 8.8 years.
  • The primary exposure measured was the use of individual GLP-1 receptor agonists — commonly used to treat type 2 diabetes and obesity — compared with nonuse.
  • The secondary exposure examined was the use of medications indicated for AUD.
  • The primary outcome was AUD-related hospitalization; secondary outcomes included hospitalization due to substance use disorder (SUD), somatic hospitalization, and suicide attempts.

TAKEAWAY:

  • About 59% of participants experienced AUD-related hospitalization.
  • Semaglutide users (n = 4321) had the lowest risk for hospitalization related to AUD (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR], 0.64; 95% CI, 0.50-0.83) and to any SUD (aHR, 0.68; 95% CI, 0.54-0.85).
  • Liraglutide users (n = 2509) had the second lowest risk for both AUD-related (aHR, 0.72; 95% CI, 0.57-0.92) and SUD-related (aHR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.64-0.97) hospitalizations.
  • The use of both semaglutide (aHR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.68-0.90) and liraglutide (aHR, 0.79; 95% CI, 0.69-0.91) was linked to a reduced risk for hospitalization because of somatic reasons but was not associated with the risk of suicide attempts.
  • Traditional AUD medications showed modest effectiveness with a slightly decreased but nonsignificant risk for AUD-related hospitalization (aHR, 0.98).

IN PRACTICE:

“AUDs and SUDs are undertreated pharmacologically, despite the availability of effective treatments. However, novel treatments are also needed because existing treatments may not be suitable for all patients. Semaglutide and liraglutide may be effective in the treatment of AUD, and clinical trials are urgently needed to confirm these findings,” the investigators wrote.

SOURCE:

This study was led by Markku Lähteenvuo, MD, PhD, University of Eastern Finland, Niuvanniemi Hospital, Kuopio. It was published online on November 13 in JAMA Psychiatry.

LIMITATIONS:

The observational nature of this study limited causal inferences.

DISCLOSURES:

The data used in this study were obtained from the REWHARD consortium, supported by the Swedish Research Council. Four of the six authors reported receiving grants or personal fees from various sources outside the submitted work, which are fully listed in the original article.

This article was created using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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Use of the glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) receptor agonists semaglutide and liraglutide is linked to a lower risk for alcohol use disorder (AUD)–related hospitalizations, compared with traditional AUD medications, a new study suggested.

METHODOLOGY:

  • Researchers conducted a nationwide cohort study from 2006 to 2023 in Sweden that included more than 220,000 individuals with AUD (mean age, 40 years; 64% men).
  • Data were obtained from registers of inpatient and specialized outpatient care, sickness absence, and disability pension, with a median follow-up period of 8.8 years.
  • The primary exposure measured was the use of individual GLP-1 receptor agonists — commonly used to treat type 2 diabetes and obesity — compared with nonuse.
  • The secondary exposure examined was the use of medications indicated for AUD.
  • The primary outcome was AUD-related hospitalization; secondary outcomes included hospitalization due to substance use disorder (SUD), somatic hospitalization, and suicide attempts.

TAKEAWAY:

  • About 59% of participants experienced AUD-related hospitalization.
  • Semaglutide users (n = 4321) had the lowest risk for hospitalization related to AUD (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR], 0.64; 95% CI, 0.50-0.83) and to any SUD (aHR, 0.68; 95% CI, 0.54-0.85).
  • Liraglutide users (n = 2509) had the second lowest risk for both AUD-related (aHR, 0.72; 95% CI, 0.57-0.92) and SUD-related (aHR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.64-0.97) hospitalizations.
  • The use of both semaglutide (aHR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.68-0.90) and liraglutide (aHR, 0.79; 95% CI, 0.69-0.91) was linked to a reduced risk for hospitalization because of somatic reasons but was not associated with the risk of suicide attempts.
  • Traditional AUD medications showed modest effectiveness with a slightly decreased but nonsignificant risk for AUD-related hospitalization (aHR, 0.98).

IN PRACTICE:

“AUDs and SUDs are undertreated pharmacologically, despite the availability of effective treatments. However, novel treatments are also needed because existing treatments may not be suitable for all patients. Semaglutide and liraglutide may be effective in the treatment of AUD, and clinical trials are urgently needed to confirm these findings,” the investigators wrote.

SOURCE:

This study was led by Markku Lähteenvuo, MD, PhD, University of Eastern Finland, Niuvanniemi Hospital, Kuopio. It was published online on November 13 in JAMA Psychiatry.

LIMITATIONS:

The observational nature of this study limited causal inferences.

DISCLOSURES:

The data used in this study were obtained from the REWHARD consortium, supported by the Swedish Research Council. Four of the six authors reported receiving grants or personal fees from various sources outside the submitted work, which are fully listed in the original article.

This article was created using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

TOPLINE:

Use of the glucagon-like peptide 1 (GLP-1) receptor agonists semaglutide and liraglutide is linked to a lower risk for alcohol use disorder (AUD)–related hospitalizations, compared with traditional AUD medications, a new study suggested.

METHODOLOGY:

  • Researchers conducted a nationwide cohort study from 2006 to 2023 in Sweden that included more than 220,000 individuals with AUD (mean age, 40 years; 64% men).
  • Data were obtained from registers of inpatient and specialized outpatient care, sickness absence, and disability pension, with a median follow-up period of 8.8 years.
  • The primary exposure measured was the use of individual GLP-1 receptor agonists — commonly used to treat type 2 diabetes and obesity — compared with nonuse.
  • The secondary exposure examined was the use of medications indicated for AUD.
  • The primary outcome was AUD-related hospitalization; secondary outcomes included hospitalization due to substance use disorder (SUD), somatic hospitalization, and suicide attempts.

TAKEAWAY:

  • About 59% of participants experienced AUD-related hospitalization.
  • Semaglutide users (n = 4321) had the lowest risk for hospitalization related to AUD (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR], 0.64; 95% CI, 0.50-0.83) and to any SUD (aHR, 0.68; 95% CI, 0.54-0.85).
  • Liraglutide users (n = 2509) had the second lowest risk for both AUD-related (aHR, 0.72; 95% CI, 0.57-0.92) and SUD-related (aHR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.64-0.97) hospitalizations.
  • The use of both semaglutide (aHR, 0.78; 95% CI, 0.68-0.90) and liraglutide (aHR, 0.79; 95% CI, 0.69-0.91) was linked to a reduced risk for hospitalization because of somatic reasons but was not associated with the risk of suicide attempts.
  • Traditional AUD medications showed modest effectiveness with a slightly decreased but nonsignificant risk for AUD-related hospitalization (aHR, 0.98).

IN PRACTICE:

“AUDs and SUDs are undertreated pharmacologically, despite the availability of effective treatments. However, novel treatments are also needed because existing treatments may not be suitable for all patients. Semaglutide and liraglutide may be effective in the treatment of AUD, and clinical trials are urgently needed to confirm these findings,” the investigators wrote.

SOURCE:

This study was led by Markku Lähteenvuo, MD, PhD, University of Eastern Finland, Niuvanniemi Hospital, Kuopio. It was published online on November 13 in JAMA Psychiatry.

LIMITATIONS:

The observational nature of this study limited causal inferences.

DISCLOSURES:

The data used in this study were obtained from the REWHARD consortium, supported by the Swedish Research Council. Four of the six authors reported receiving grants or personal fees from various sources outside the submitted work, which are fully listed in the original article.

This article was created using several editorial tools, including AI, as part of the process. Human editors reviewed this content before publication. A version of this article first appeared on Medscape.com.

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— Glucagon-like peptide 1 receptor agonist (GLP-1 RA) medications appear beneficial for people with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) and lupus nephritis, two new studies suggest. 

“The risk of cardiovascular disease is thought to be at least double that for people with lupus ... and we know the risk of progressing to end-stage renal disease [ESKD] for patients with lupus nephritis can be as high as 10%-30%, so there’s clearly a major unmet need for new treatments and approaches to improve these outcomes, perhaps with adjunctive treatment beyond our typical immunosuppressive therapy,” April Jorge, MD, of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, said at the annual meeting of the American College of Rheumatology (ACR)

The GLP-1 RAs are approved for the treatment of type 2 diabetes (T2D) and obesity. They also have proven cardiovascular benefit, along with emerging data suggesting kidney protection independent of glucose lowering. Jorge presented findings from a study using data from the US multicenter electronic health record database TriNetX, showing that, among patients who had both T2D and SLE, those using GLP-1 RAs had lower risks for major adverse cardiac events (MACE), venous thrombosis, kidney disease progression, and all-cause mortality, compared with those using a different class of T2D medication. 

A second study using TriNetX, presented at the same ACR meeting session by Anna-Kay Palmer, MD, a third-year internal medicine resident at Jefferson Einstein Hospital, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, showed that GLP-1 RAs reduced the risk of progression to ESKD in patients with lupus nephritis, possibly caused by reductions in pro-inflammatory mediators.

Asked to comment, session moderator Diane L. Kamen, MD, professor of medicine at the Medical University of South Carolina Division of Rheumatology, Charleston, said in an interview that she definitely supports the use of GLP-1 RAs for patients who have SLE and/or lupus nephritis and also a drug label indication, either T2D or obesity. “[The GLP-1 RA prescriber] will usually run it by rheumatology to make sure that it doesn’t conflict with any of their other medical treatment, and it’s very reassuring to know that they could actually get a win-win.” 

But as far as prescribing off-label for those with SLE/lupus nephritis who don’t have other GLP-1 RA indications, Kamen said, “that’s a black hole at this point. We need to do those prospective studies. But if they have another indication, yes.”

 

Cardiovascular, Kidney Benefits of GLP-1 RAs

Jorge noted that patients with lupus were excluded from the randomized clinical trials of GLP-1 RAs, so the current study was designed to investigate the potential impact of these medications on cardiovascular and kidney outcomes in patients with SLE and lupus nephritis. 

From TriNetX data for 46 healthcare organizations nationwide, a total of 96,511 patients with both SLE and T2D but not ESKD had initiated either a GLP-1 RA or another diabetes drug class, dipeptidyl peptidase 4 inhibitors (DPP4i), between October 2006 and August 2021. Of those, 29,177 had lupus nephritis. 

Propensity score matching for factors such as demographics, lupus severity, comorbidities, and medication use was used to emulate a randomized trial. This yielded 25,838 with SLE and T2D, of whom 910 initiated a GLP-1 RA and 1004 started a DPP4i, and 12,387 with lupus nephritis and T2D, including 267 on a GLP-1 RA and 324 on a DPP4i. After matching, the mean age was 55 years, more than 90% were women, and just under half were White individuals. About one third had chronic kidney disease stages ≥ 3, and about 15% had heart failure. 

Over an average follow-up time of 1.2-1.4 years among those with SLE, the hazard ratio (HR) for MACE (a composite of myocardial infarction, stroke, and heart failure) for those taking a GLP-1 RA vs a DPP4i was 0.66, a significant difference. And for venous thrombosis, the HR was also significant at 0.49.

Kidney disease progression, defined as an estimated glomerular filtration rate decline of 30% or more or new ESKD, was significantly less likely in the GLP-1 RA group, with a HR of 0.77. All-cause mortality also was dramatically reduced (HR, 0.26). As expected, there was no difference in control outcome, genital infections (HR, 1.02). 

In the subgroup with lupus nephritis, there were also lower risks for both MACE (HR, 0.64) and for renal progression (HR, 0.70). “The findings suggest similar cardiac and kidney benefits among patients with SLE and lupus nephritis as have been observed in other populations,” Jorge concluded. 

Kamen commented that the study design “was pretty brilliant, because you wouldn’t be able to do a placebo-controlled trial since the indication was diabetes ... but the fact is you do see that the GLP-1 RA gets the benefit whereas the other drug does not.”

Next steps, Jorge said, will be mechanistic studies to better understand the effects of GLP-1 RAs in lupus and other rheumatic diseases, prospective studies of GLP-1 RAs in SLE and lupus nephritis without diabetes, and clarification of ideal timing for GLP-1 RA use in SLE and lupus nephritis. 

“Ideally, with our prospective studies with these patients we can try to isolate the effect on patients with lupus and also better understand whether there might be an impact on disease activity through the anti-inflammatory effects of these medications, rather than just the cardioprotective and nephroprotective benefits,” she said. 

 

In Those With Lupus Nephritis, Kidney Protection Seen

In her presentation, Palmer noted that, despite immunosuppressive therapies for SLE, 10%-20% of patients who develop lupus nephritis will progress to ESKD within 5 years of diagnosis. 

She added that GLP-1 RAs have been shown to reduce albuminuria in people with diabetes and have been hypothesized to reduce inflammation through multiple pathways, thereby potentially reducing kidney disease independently of the presence of diabetes or weight loss. These pathways include modulating immune cell signaling and reducing pro-inflammatory cytokines. 

Based on all this, Palmer and colleagues used International Classification of Diseases – 10th edition diagnostic codes in TriNetX to identify 839 patients who had been diagnosed with lupus nephritis between 2014 and 2024 and who were prescribed liraglutide, dulaglutide, semaglutide, or exenatide for any time after the lupus nephritis diagnosis. Another 29,840 patients with lupus nephritis had not used GLP-1 RAs. 

After 1:1 propensity score matching for age, sex, race, ethnicity, presence of hypertension, diabetes, use of immunosuppressive and diabetes medication, smoking, obesity, and statin use, there were 735 individuals in each group. About two thirds in each had diabetes, whereas the rest had been prescribed the GLP-1 RAs for other indications. 

Patients who were not on GLP-1 RAs were twice as likely to develop ESKD or dialysis (8.88% vs 3.971%; odds ratio, 2.35; P = .001). 

Kamen pointed out that not including the use of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers was a study flaw. On the other hand, the fact that not everyone in this study had diabetes was an advantage.

Jorge received grant/research support from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Cabaletta Bio, and the Lupus Clinical Investigator Network. Kamen is an adviser/review panel member for Alpine Immune Sciences. Palmer had no disclosures.

A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.

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— Glucagon-like peptide 1 receptor agonist (GLP-1 RA) medications appear beneficial for people with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) and lupus nephritis, two new studies suggest. 

“The risk of cardiovascular disease is thought to be at least double that for people with lupus ... and we know the risk of progressing to end-stage renal disease [ESKD] for patients with lupus nephritis can be as high as 10%-30%, so there’s clearly a major unmet need for new treatments and approaches to improve these outcomes, perhaps with adjunctive treatment beyond our typical immunosuppressive therapy,” April Jorge, MD, of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, said at the annual meeting of the American College of Rheumatology (ACR)

The GLP-1 RAs are approved for the treatment of type 2 diabetes (T2D) and obesity. They also have proven cardiovascular benefit, along with emerging data suggesting kidney protection independent of glucose lowering. Jorge presented findings from a study using data from the US multicenter electronic health record database TriNetX, showing that, among patients who had both T2D and SLE, those using GLP-1 RAs had lower risks for major adverse cardiac events (MACE), venous thrombosis, kidney disease progression, and all-cause mortality, compared with those using a different class of T2D medication. 

A second study using TriNetX, presented at the same ACR meeting session by Anna-Kay Palmer, MD, a third-year internal medicine resident at Jefferson Einstein Hospital, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, showed that GLP-1 RAs reduced the risk of progression to ESKD in patients with lupus nephritis, possibly caused by reductions in pro-inflammatory mediators.

Asked to comment, session moderator Diane L. Kamen, MD, professor of medicine at the Medical University of South Carolina Division of Rheumatology, Charleston, said in an interview that she definitely supports the use of GLP-1 RAs for patients who have SLE and/or lupus nephritis and also a drug label indication, either T2D or obesity. “[The GLP-1 RA prescriber] will usually run it by rheumatology to make sure that it doesn’t conflict with any of their other medical treatment, and it’s very reassuring to know that they could actually get a win-win.” 

But as far as prescribing off-label for those with SLE/lupus nephritis who don’t have other GLP-1 RA indications, Kamen said, “that’s a black hole at this point. We need to do those prospective studies. But if they have another indication, yes.”

 

Cardiovascular, Kidney Benefits of GLP-1 RAs

Jorge noted that patients with lupus were excluded from the randomized clinical trials of GLP-1 RAs, so the current study was designed to investigate the potential impact of these medications on cardiovascular and kidney outcomes in patients with SLE and lupus nephritis. 

From TriNetX data for 46 healthcare organizations nationwide, a total of 96,511 patients with both SLE and T2D but not ESKD had initiated either a GLP-1 RA or another diabetes drug class, dipeptidyl peptidase 4 inhibitors (DPP4i), between October 2006 and August 2021. Of those, 29,177 had lupus nephritis. 

Propensity score matching for factors such as demographics, lupus severity, comorbidities, and medication use was used to emulate a randomized trial. This yielded 25,838 with SLE and T2D, of whom 910 initiated a GLP-1 RA and 1004 started a DPP4i, and 12,387 with lupus nephritis and T2D, including 267 on a GLP-1 RA and 324 on a DPP4i. After matching, the mean age was 55 years, more than 90% were women, and just under half were White individuals. About one third had chronic kidney disease stages ≥ 3, and about 15% had heart failure. 

Over an average follow-up time of 1.2-1.4 years among those with SLE, the hazard ratio (HR) for MACE (a composite of myocardial infarction, stroke, and heart failure) for those taking a GLP-1 RA vs a DPP4i was 0.66, a significant difference. And for venous thrombosis, the HR was also significant at 0.49.

Kidney disease progression, defined as an estimated glomerular filtration rate decline of 30% or more or new ESKD, was significantly less likely in the GLP-1 RA group, with a HR of 0.77. All-cause mortality also was dramatically reduced (HR, 0.26). As expected, there was no difference in control outcome, genital infections (HR, 1.02). 

In the subgroup with lupus nephritis, there were also lower risks for both MACE (HR, 0.64) and for renal progression (HR, 0.70). “The findings suggest similar cardiac and kidney benefits among patients with SLE and lupus nephritis as have been observed in other populations,” Jorge concluded. 

Kamen commented that the study design “was pretty brilliant, because you wouldn’t be able to do a placebo-controlled trial since the indication was diabetes ... but the fact is you do see that the GLP-1 RA gets the benefit whereas the other drug does not.”

Next steps, Jorge said, will be mechanistic studies to better understand the effects of GLP-1 RAs in lupus and other rheumatic diseases, prospective studies of GLP-1 RAs in SLE and lupus nephritis without diabetes, and clarification of ideal timing for GLP-1 RA use in SLE and lupus nephritis. 

“Ideally, with our prospective studies with these patients we can try to isolate the effect on patients with lupus and also better understand whether there might be an impact on disease activity through the anti-inflammatory effects of these medications, rather than just the cardioprotective and nephroprotective benefits,” she said. 

 

In Those With Lupus Nephritis, Kidney Protection Seen

In her presentation, Palmer noted that, despite immunosuppressive therapies for SLE, 10%-20% of patients who develop lupus nephritis will progress to ESKD within 5 years of diagnosis. 

She added that GLP-1 RAs have been shown to reduce albuminuria in people with diabetes and have been hypothesized to reduce inflammation through multiple pathways, thereby potentially reducing kidney disease independently of the presence of diabetes or weight loss. These pathways include modulating immune cell signaling and reducing pro-inflammatory cytokines. 

Based on all this, Palmer and colleagues used International Classification of Diseases – 10th edition diagnostic codes in TriNetX to identify 839 patients who had been diagnosed with lupus nephritis between 2014 and 2024 and who were prescribed liraglutide, dulaglutide, semaglutide, or exenatide for any time after the lupus nephritis diagnosis. Another 29,840 patients with lupus nephritis had not used GLP-1 RAs. 

After 1:1 propensity score matching for age, sex, race, ethnicity, presence of hypertension, diabetes, use of immunosuppressive and diabetes medication, smoking, obesity, and statin use, there were 735 individuals in each group. About two thirds in each had diabetes, whereas the rest had been prescribed the GLP-1 RAs for other indications. 

Patients who were not on GLP-1 RAs were twice as likely to develop ESKD or dialysis (8.88% vs 3.971%; odds ratio, 2.35; P = .001). 

Kamen pointed out that not including the use of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers was a study flaw. On the other hand, the fact that not everyone in this study had diabetes was an advantage.

Jorge received grant/research support from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Cabaletta Bio, and the Lupus Clinical Investigator Network. Kamen is an adviser/review panel member for Alpine Immune Sciences. Palmer had no disclosures.

A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.

— Glucagon-like peptide 1 receptor agonist (GLP-1 RA) medications appear beneficial for people with systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE) and lupus nephritis, two new studies suggest. 

“The risk of cardiovascular disease is thought to be at least double that for people with lupus ... and we know the risk of progressing to end-stage renal disease [ESKD] for patients with lupus nephritis can be as high as 10%-30%, so there’s clearly a major unmet need for new treatments and approaches to improve these outcomes, perhaps with adjunctive treatment beyond our typical immunosuppressive therapy,” April Jorge, MD, of Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, said at the annual meeting of the American College of Rheumatology (ACR)

The GLP-1 RAs are approved for the treatment of type 2 diabetes (T2D) and obesity. They also have proven cardiovascular benefit, along with emerging data suggesting kidney protection independent of glucose lowering. Jorge presented findings from a study using data from the US multicenter electronic health record database TriNetX, showing that, among patients who had both T2D and SLE, those using GLP-1 RAs had lower risks for major adverse cardiac events (MACE), venous thrombosis, kidney disease progression, and all-cause mortality, compared with those using a different class of T2D medication. 

A second study using TriNetX, presented at the same ACR meeting session by Anna-Kay Palmer, MD, a third-year internal medicine resident at Jefferson Einstein Hospital, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, showed that GLP-1 RAs reduced the risk of progression to ESKD in patients with lupus nephritis, possibly caused by reductions in pro-inflammatory mediators.

Asked to comment, session moderator Diane L. Kamen, MD, professor of medicine at the Medical University of South Carolina Division of Rheumatology, Charleston, said in an interview that she definitely supports the use of GLP-1 RAs for patients who have SLE and/or lupus nephritis and also a drug label indication, either T2D or obesity. “[The GLP-1 RA prescriber] will usually run it by rheumatology to make sure that it doesn’t conflict with any of their other medical treatment, and it’s very reassuring to know that they could actually get a win-win.” 

But as far as prescribing off-label for those with SLE/lupus nephritis who don’t have other GLP-1 RA indications, Kamen said, “that’s a black hole at this point. We need to do those prospective studies. But if they have another indication, yes.”

 

Cardiovascular, Kidney Benefits of GLP-1 RAs

Jorge noted that patients with lupus were excluded from the randomized clinical trials of GLP-1 RAs, so the current study was designed to investigate the potential impact of these medications on cardiovascular and kidney outcomes in patients with SLE and lupus nephritis. 

From TriNetX data for 46 healthcare organizations nationwide, a total of 96,511 patients with both SLE and T2D but not ESKD had initiated either a GLP-1 RA or another diabetes drug class, dipeptidyl peptidase 4 inhibitors (DPP4i), between October 2006 and August 2021. Of those, 29,177 had lupus nephritis. 

Propensity score matching for factors such as demographics, lupus severity, comorbidities, and medication use was used to emulate a randomized trial. This yielded 25,838 with SLE and T2D, of whom 910 initiated a GLP-1 RA and 1004 started a DPP4i, and 12,387 with lupus nephritis and T2D, including 267 on a GLP-1 RA and 324 on a DPP4i. After matching, the mean age was 55 years, more than 90% were women, and just under half were White individuals. About one third had chronic kidney disease stages ≥ 3, and about 15% had heart failure. 

Over an average follow-up time of 1.2-1.4 years among those with SLE, the hazard ratio (HR) for MACE (a composite of myocardial infarction, stroke, and heart failure) for those taking a GLP-1 RA vs a DPP4i was 0.66, a significant difference. And for venous thrombosis, the HR was also significant at 0.49.

Kidney disease progression, defined as an estimated glomerular filtration rate decline of 30% or more or new ESKD, was significantly less likely in the GLP-1 RA group, with a HR of 0.77. All-cause mortality also was dramatically reduced (HR, 0.26). As expected, there was no difference in control outcome, genital infections (HR, 1.02). 

In the subgroup with lupus nephritis, there were also lower risks for both MACE (HR, 0.64) and for renal progression (HR, 0.70). “The findings suggest similar cardiac and kidney benefits among patients with SLE and lupus nephritis as have been observed in other populations,” Jorge concluded. 

Kamen commented that the study design “was pretty brilliant, because you wouldn’t be able to do a placebo-controlled trial since the indication was diabetes ... but the fact is you do see that the GLP-1 RA gets the benefit whereas the other drug does not.”

Next steps, Jorge said, will be mechanistic studies to better understand the effects of GLP-1 RAs in lupus and other rheumatic diseases, prospective studies of GLP-1 RAs in SLE and lupus nephritis without diabetes, and clarification of ideal timing for GLP-1 RA use in SLE and lupus nephritis. 

“Ideally, with our prospective studies with these patients we can try to isolate the effect on patients with lupus and also better understand whether there might be an impact on disease activity through the anti-inflammatory effects of these medications, rather than just the cardioprotective and nephroprotective benefits,” she said. 

 

In Those With Lupus Nephritis, Kidney Protection Seen

In her presentation, Palmer noted that, despite immunosuppressive therapies for SLE, 10%-20% of patients who develop lupus nephritis will progress to ESKD within 5 years of diagnosis. 

She added that GLP-1 RAs have been shown to reduce albuminuria in people with diabetes and have been hypothesized to reduce inflammation through multiple pathways, thereby potentially reducing kidney disease independently of the presence of diabetes or weight loss. These pathways include modulating immune cell signaling and reducing pro-inflammatory cytokines. 

Based on all this, Palmer and colleagues used International Classification of Diseases – 10th edition diagnostic codes in TriNetX to identify 839 patients who had been diagnosed with lupus nephritis between 2014 and 2024 and who were prescribed liraglutide, dulaglutide, semaglutide, or exenatide for any time after the lupus nephritis diagnosis. Another 29,840 patients with lupus nephritis had not used GLP-1 RAs. 

After 1:1 propensity score matching for age, sex, race, ethnicity, presence of hypertension, diabetes, use of immunosuppressive and diabetes medication, smoking, obesity, and statin use, there were 735 individuals in each group. About two thirds in each had diabetes, whereas the rest had been prescribed the GLP-1 RAs for other indications. 

Patients who were not on GLP-1 RAs were twice as likely to develop ESKD or dialysis (8.88% vs 3.971%; odds ratio, 2.35; P = .001). 

Kamen pointed out that not including the use of angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers was a study flaw. On the other hand, the fact that not everyone in this study had diabetes was an advantage.

Jorge received grant/research support from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Cabaletta Bio, and the Lupus Clinical Investigator Network. Kamen is an adviser/review panel member for Alpine Immune Sciences. Palmer had no disclosures.

A version of this article appeared on Medscape.com.

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